Why does Hawaii want to make it a Death Penalty offense to ask for the Usurper’s records of birth?
We don’t know his name — this man, this usurper — is it Steven Dunham, Barry Soetoro, or Barack Obama? No one has seen his college records, his Illinois Bar records are scrubbed. Some claim he was born in Hawaii. Kenyans claim he was born in Kenya. He says his Dad was a Kenyan. He may have claimed at times to have been Indonesian — that is, he may have enrolled in college as a foreign exchange student. There’s no marriage certificate for his parents, and the one one divorce record seems somewhat questionable.
Hawaii refuses to release any substantial records which would help resolve the issues of this usurper, despite the fact that their own laws allow them to when there is a legitimate public interest. And now Hawaii attempts to make asking for those records a felony. A capital crime. Capital crimes, felonies, are those possibly subject to the death penalty.
Is this still America, the free?
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
"felony n. 1) a crime sufficiently serious to be punishable by death or a term in state or federal prison, as distinguished from a misdemeanor which is only punishable by confinement to county or local jail and/or a fine. "
"On January 27th Hawaii State Senator Will Espero introduced SB2937 , which would add to Hawaii’s existing open records law, UIPA, a provision to label as “vexatious requestors” people who exhibit 2 or more behaviors that the bill calls “abuses” of UIPA."
It’s only another step towards making it a felony …
Hawaii goose steps towards making gathering information about Obama criminal. The last step of that march ends up like Döllersheim. Look up the fate of that town.
"Unauthorized disclosure is permitted. Vital statistics–required information on death and birth certificates–has not been changed by HIPAA. The information required on [a birth or death] certificate can be provided without authorization."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0689/is_9_53/ai_n6207442/
Penny Lee:
(1) Felonies, by DEFINITION are those crimes for which the death penalty might be applied. Misdemeanors are those crimes which would never get a death penalty. Do proper research, girl!
(2) Laws start as toothpicks and end up as pikes thrust through the body public.
Even if the Federal HIPAA law applied to Birth Certificates — WHICH IT DOES NOT — it would still be trumped by the Constitution! The Constitutional requirement to determine the natural born citizen status of a President (or VP) means that the NATION has a interest that trumps all privacy interest, for persons seeking those offices.
If Congress can contemplate throwing people in jail for not buying insurance, then there is little that they not capable of. They are after all the body that voted unanimously to recognize the citizenship of Obama.
I doubt that even a liberal government would allow that.
And… with the event of the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION… America is Less Free – every day.
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They will call you names.
They will even threaten you.
Do not stop questioning this man and asking questions about who he is, and more importantly, who he represents.
He is an "agent" of International Bankers and his mission is to "carry on from where Bush left off" and continue the destruction of the Constitution and Bill of RIGHTS.
Yes,.."W" was another "agent" of the same forces which seek the end of the Nation State and the Formation of a World Government.
These "agents" have infiltrated BOTH Parties in the United States, so it really does not matter which party you vote for.
Ron Paul seems to be the only guy with a set of B***S in the United States who is willing to challenge the power of the Bankers.
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Where did you hear this from? I want to see his records and last I heard it was PUBLIC RECORDS to see someone’s birth certificate. I do genealogy and can get them…I have them from back in the 1600’s..from churches etc that did them…
SO WHY IS HE SO SPECIAL that you can’t get it? It is a PUBLIC RECORD!
THAT is the worst part of it and what makes things so suspicious. WHY CAN’T ANYONE VIEW IT?
WHY JUST THE COLB..which was done 20 years after the fact and not at the time of birth. I know people will give answers that it was in the paper etc..but you can put ANYTHING In the paper…..no one checks out facts..it was an announcement by PARENTS..not government offices.
WE ALL KNOW announcements are MONTHS LATER!
Where did you hear they are trying to make viewing these records a capital crime?
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Not sure where you get the death penalty stuff from.
Hawaii cannot release those records to the general public, because it is superseded by HIPAA. It is a felony in every state, as well as the federal level, to access non-public records. There is a legitimate public interest for the FEC to know; I’m sure that they have seen the records.
The poster above me is wrong; birth certificates are not public record.
As for those Kenyans, they seem less than credible.
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@ghandi is absolutly right;we suffer same pains here and they replace the republic by organisms where décisions are tooken without vote or by poeple non elected working for the hudges companies in the world.
We have to fight them on each side of Atlantic it’s one of the reason for me to share our knowlage about them.
the usal joke:you may not know his father’s name;her mother don’t know who he is!
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Doesn’t anyone ever look up information themselves anymore? Your question is ludicrous. Hawaii bill Senate Bill 2937 "would allow state agencies to label people who persistently "abuse" the public information process as "vexatious requestors," which would allow state officials to deny their requests for documents." http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100219/NEWS01/2190362/Hawaii+gets+persistent+requests+for+Obama+birth+certificate
Not a crime (and all felonies aren’t capital crimes anyway), no jail time, not even a fine for requesting the information. They just don’t have to answer the question if they determine that the asker is a persistent nutcase.
Hawaii laws DON’T allow the release of birth certificates for living people, unless the person permits it. The problems Hawaii has been having come from people not living in Hawaii, at a time when Hawaii has been cutting back staffing due to a budget crisis. They HAVE, however, stated that they have seen the original records and Obama was born in Hawaii. They’ve released the Index data that says Obama was born in Hawaii. Give it up already.
ADDED: Oh, come on. Capital crimes almost always require death of a victim or aggravated rape of a young child. Even that is in doubt under the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause. Felony does not equal capital crime. Notice the OR in your own definition. The proposed law in Hawaii says the only punishment is "The office of information practices may restrict a vexatious requester’s exercise of the rights set forth in this chapter." It’s not a crime AT ALL. They can ignore the requests.
The restrictions on access to vital records isn’t HIPPA at all, it’s Hawaii Revised Statutes 338. Your FindArticles link is so misleading I think you are trying to defraud on purpose. Your entire quote is related to DEATH certificates ONLY — you wrongly added birth. The rest of the article makes it clear that they are talking about health professionals, not the general public.
"Scenario 1
A family physician’s patient dies at home. The physician is asked to fill out a death certificate, which contains PHI as defined by the HIPAA privacy rule. Is this permitted without family authorization?
Unauthorized disclosure is permitted. Vital statistics–required information on death and birth certificates–has not been changed by HIPAA. The information required on the death certificate can be provided without authorization."
The Constitution says in Amendment 20 that the Electoral College and Congress qualify the President-elect. They did. Your elected representatives, along with the elected members of the Electoral College (since we don’t actually vote for the President, as per the Constitution) determined that Obama was eligible for the office. Did they examine his documents? No idea. Were they convinced he was a natural born citizen? Obviously so, because NO ONE OBJECTED. Get over it.
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http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/bills/SB2937_SD1_.pdf
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol06_ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm
Didn’t Hawaii just recently claim to recognize it being a Muslim State. Maybe that is the reason.
It was America the Free but we are losing our Freedoms at lightning speed under this administration.
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If Congress can contemplate throwing people in jail for not buying insurance, then there is little that they not capable of. They are after all the body that voted unanimously to recognize the citizenship of Obama.
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http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/07/27/congress-unanimously-passes-resolution-recognizing-obamas-hawaiian-birth/
Lol.. good question.
I think it should be a death penalty offence if YOU DO NOT SHOW A RECOGNIZED BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
BaBye, Bami!
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What passport did Mr. Obama (Barry Soetoro), use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi?
First, explain how a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the- world trip just a month later?
And once he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No.. It is not possible.. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s "no travel" list
in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he had to be traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
1) If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he
was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.
2) If he were traveling with an Indonesian passport after the age of 18 that would tend to prove that he relinquished and denounced whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American.
Time to Impeach the Kenyan maggot:
http://freedomtalk.lefora.com/2009/09/07/here-is-the-original-obamas-kenyan-birth-certifica/
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