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Red Gold: The Pebble Mine Debate. Bristol Bay, AK

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This short film clip by Felt Soul Media frames the debate on the proposed gold mine at the headwaters of Bristol Bay in AK.

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  1. troutman222
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:43 | #1

    @metallogeny if you …
    @metallogeny if you honestly believe that then you’re totally and utterly moronic

  2. JessePinkmanYo
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:43 | #2

    Guess what? do you …
    Guess what? do you like electricity, lights, modern society. it takes copper for modern society to run. I suggest if you oppose this mine you shouldn’t use any copper at all, you’d better sell all your gold too, oh yeah and turn your back on the economic system. People need money to live, I didn’t make the rules but, The pebble deposit will bring BILLIONS to the local native community

    OPPOSE HAARP NOT PEBBLE- HAARP WILL DESTROY THE WORLD

  3. georgeegger
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:43 | #3

    Say no to the …
    Say no to the Pebble Mine and protect Bristol Bay! This land is priceless and we
    must do all we can to protect it from short sighted greed! It’s time for once that
    humans think about the long haul. And leave something as our creator intended.

  4. wayupstream1
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:43 | #4

    luck can be a …
    luck can be a deciding factor. fingers crossed.

  5. pattycrack
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:43 | #5

    yeah its a bad idea …
    yeah its a bad idea..so how you gonna stop a gold rush? good luck.

  6. wayupstream1
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:43 | #6

    sounds like a good …
    sounds like a good idea. let me know how the social studies class debate goes.

  7. bow2chuckanorris
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:43 | #7

    im just a twelve …
    im just a twelve year old, even i can see through this “pebble mine” Bullshit. im bringing it up in my social studies class for a debate

  8. metallogeny
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #8

    @6970Usermik: Us …
    @6970Usermik: Us natives will continue to subsist on salmon while learning valuable skills and being granted remarkable opportunities to take these skills anywhere in the world — or here. It was an American driller who drilled that hole to rescue the Chilean miners. There is no evidence that a Pebble Mine will negatively impact the salmon population of Bristol Bay. Recent evidence suggest that the opposite will happen — where Red Dog, Fort Knox, and Pogo have improved the local fish habitat.

  9. 6970Usermik
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #9

    @metallogeny basic …
    @metallogeny basic math here: a renewable resource which us natives survived on for a good 10,000 years or the destruction of the resource for a one-time PFD. *one century later* – yeah i’ll go with the salmon run that bristol bay is known for

  10. 6970Usermik
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #10

    @metallogeny basic …
    @metallogeny basic math here: a renewable resource which us natives survived on for a good 10,000 years or the destruction the resource for a one-time PFD. *one century later* – yeah i’ll go with the salmon run that bristol bay is known for

  11. 6970Usermik
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #11

    @warburgella the …
    @warburgella the last thing we native americans need are more mines that KOs our cultures just for the extra paper in the gigantic wallets of the major corporations that can easily out do any yo mama joke. and yes, our copper demands may be higher than your house but think about the other wildlife for once, ever since humans dominated the planet we cared less for other animals that tried to share this planet with us and let them bite the dust you’re still hoping to mine.

  12. 6970Usermik
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #12

    either you get a ( …
    either you get a (although the corporations take a whole lot more than you) big buck and don’t earn any more than that, or you do NOT get that nice raise and keep earning some money – basic math here, i think i’ll go with the nice, constant income rather than a rip – off oversized PFD. ima native american too and mines like these that threaten our cultures just for the extra paper for the people who already have overweight wallets won’t just waltz into alaska without opposition.

  13. teamk4
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #13

    Just got done …
    Just got done watching the Red Gold Documentary….very sad the dollars and cents could out weight one of the last great fishing lands in the world. I am not an avid fisherman but I know the value of fishing on more than the monetary level. DON”T let them mine!!! At all cost stop this.

  14. ClearCut83
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #14

    Good stuff! I have …
    Good stuff! I have copyright permission and have received the High Definition trailer from Travis of Felt Soul Media. Come take a look in hd!

  15. 05Dubb
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #15

    im from Bristol Bay …
    im from Bristol Bay…..
    And what im saying we need to keep fighting we could get the pebble mine outta Bristol somehow

  16. warburgella
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #16

    Lovely photography …
    Lovely photography and certainly interesting, but a repetitive, long-winded movie, replete with numerous errors of fact. Too bad. Every one of the individuals profiled in the movie depends on copper in some way. Where will it come from, if not a mine, somewhere? Fortunately the US has amongst the toughest environmental laws in the world, and if a mine does go in, it should be held to those laws.

  17. benefit44
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #17

    We (the broke …
    We (the broke fishermen) wouldn’t be broke if the processors didn’t screw us over every year. They can afford to pay us at least a buck a pound, but no they’re paying us 68 cents. this pebble mine bullshit. It shouldn’t even be a debate. I live in oregon and we up the Columbia river doing the same type of bullshit. the mine.

  18. Carlimongrel1910
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #18


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  19. pukaman2000
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #19

    Oh, the mineral …
    Oh, the mineral part is quite true. The contamination comes from the “industry” that we are talking about, and this film is wanting to stop. Hawaii does have some exports, such as fish (Large fish farms off the coast that nobody talks about) Water (distilled deep salt water is a hit in Japan) Algee (spirilina) and tourism. The tourism is not to come and see a metropolis, but to enjoy nature and the waves. Pakalolo is a money crop anywhere, even Alaska. You lose your land if you are caught.

  20. metallogeny
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #20

    This is a lie!


    This is a lie!

    All mechanized activities are fully permitted and reclaimed and available for public review. Because you are ignorant, you must resort to fabrication and extrapolation.

  21. metallogeny
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #21

    Hawaii is hardly …
    Hawaii is hardly uncontaminated. Hawaii is 100% dependent on minerals and 100% dependent on someone else, far away to produce these minerals for them. Hawaii’s number one product are tourist trinkets. Hawaii’s number one export is pakalolo. Hawaii is a playground for corporate chiefs. This is no record to be proud of.

  22. pukaman2000
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #22

    There is a …
    There is a difference and a vicious cycle here. First the Corporation makes promises, then with the permits, they start, then when they make profit they invest it in DEREGULATION lobbying rather than ENVIRONMENT. You fail to say that those same resources will be there tomorrow… so there is no rush to get them… they will be there. Now people pay big money to live in UNCONTAMINATED places like Hawaii. Not because they are fancy, because they are pure.

  23. redsalmo76
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:44 | #23

    The test drilling ( …
    The test drilling (without permits I might add) is already doing enough damage.

    google ak trecking and find the test site photos, see for yourself, and extrapolate..

    Vote YES on Ballot Measure 4

  24. ZSparkman
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:45 | #24

    We’ve been very …
    We’ve been very lucky in Alaska that we haven’t had any accidents with mines. The reason that I’m concerned about this particular mine is that Northern Dynasties is owned by some of the same people that caused Montana’s Zortman-Landusky open-pit mine fiasco.

  25. metallogeny
    June 8th, 2011 at 21:45 | #25

    Who knows? That’s …
    Who knows? That’s why we have regulatory oversight and enforcement. Fisherman have done the same thing to their own fisheries. It is an indisputable fact that commercial fisherman slaughter millions of fish every year and that they have destroyed entire fisheries by their greed. Can you name one fishery in Alaska that has been negatively impacted by mining? Cominco (Red Dog) and Kinross (Ft. Knox) have factually improved downstream fish habitat. Fishing and mining together is the answer.

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