Can you find this girl on the census?
Here’s all I know about her:
Entry from family bible:
Julia Deverux died Jan 14th, 1904
Obituary:
Chicago Daily News – 15 Jan 1904
DEVEREUX – Jan. 14 at St. Joseph’s Hopsital, 360 Garfield-av., Miss Julia Devereux, recently of Rosecrans, Lake County, Illinois. Funeral Saturday, 16th 10 am from hospital to Calvary.
Death Certificate:
All fields except name and death date/location are blank. =/
Cemetery Record:
Julia Deveroux (age 45) – interment 1/14/04
She’s the only one buried in her plot, which was purchased by Rev. M. H. Bruton on 15 Jan 1904.
1900 Census – Newport Twp – Lake Co, IL – Page 180A
Michael Bruton – W-M- Sept 1849 – 50 – Single – IRE-IRE-IRE – Imm.1867 – Catholic Clergyman
Julia Devereux – Boarder – W-F – Nov 1847 – 42 – Single – NY-IRE-IRE – Housekeeper
I can’t find her anywhere before this 1900 census. Can you?
I think she must be the sister of my Mary Devereaux, who was in Troy, Rensselaer County, NY in 1860, living with another family as a domestic servent. I have no clue who Mary’s parents/siblings are. But check this out….
At Mary Devereaux’s wedding to James Ryan (1860 in Troy, NY), the witnesses were a William Burke and a Hannah Devereux. And look at this census entry:
1860 Census – Troy, NY – Ward 9 – Page 112
Bartholemew Katon – 43 – Laborer – IRE
Mrs. Katon – 37 – IRE
James Grace – 40 – Switchman – IRE
Julia A. Grace – 61 – IRE
James Grace, Jr. – 19 – Laborer – NY
William Burke – 19 – Spring Maker – IRE ************
Michael Fanning – 30 – Laborer – IRE
Ann Devix – 16 – Servant – IRE *****************
Julia A. Devix – 5 – NY *****************
Do you think that Ann and Julia Devix could be Hannah and Julia Devereux???
And by the way, the bible entry is from the bible of Mary Devereaux Ryan. That Julia is the only Devereux listed.
Standard for census is that they are "off" probably more than half of the time.. and the most correct will be the earliest one. In other words.. it is hard to make a mistake re a 5 yr old. By the time you get to 40 or more, the women are frequently shaving anywhere from 5-10 yrs, of vanity.
1855 is almost absolute.. and my vote is that they are sisters, not mother/ daughter. One or both parents have most likely died in the preceding 5 yrs. The immigration is between 1844 to 1855. With a little luck, the parents and Hannah/ Ann are in NY in 1850 census.
If you have Hannah in any later census ie 1900, you may have the immigration year included.
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one source for you to follow up…
the diocese records in the NY area. They are absolute Catholics.
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on the off chance that Bartholomew/ wife are relatives, he served in the CW, and has a pension index card in 1891. fwiw.
http://www.rcda.org/parishes_rensselaer.html
churches in the area… with date of founding and emails…
I looked at your information you listed and this is what I conclude—
on your 1900 census you show her born Nov 1847 this would make her either 52 or going on 53 depending upon what month the census took place.On that census it states she was born in NY and both parents born in Ireland.
Now on your 1860 census you show a Julia age 5, so that would make her born in 1855 or possibly 1854 depending upon when the census was taken.If you go by this information alone, I think they are 2 different Julia’s, but if they are the same Julia’s then the Ann age 16 on the census could be her mother. It would not be that uncommon back in that time frame for an 11 year old or 12 year old girl to have a child.You also show Ann being born in Ireland. So she could have given Julia her own last name as she may not have either known who the father was, or the father was not going to recognize the child as his or she cold be the daughter of the household owner at that time.
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Standard for census is that they are "off" probably more than half of the time.. and the most correct will be the earliest one. In other words.. it is hard to make a mistake re a 5 yr old. By the time you get to 40 or more, the women are frequently shaving anywhere from 5-10 yrs, of vanity.
1855 is almost absolute.. and my vote is that they are sisters, not mother/ daughter. One or both parents have most likely died in the preceding 5 yrs. The immigration is between 1844 to 1855. With a little luck, the parents and Hannah/ Ann are in NY in 1850 census.
If you have Hannah in any later census ie 1900, you may have the immigration year included.
edit
one source for you to follow up…
the diocese records in the NY area. They are absolute Catholics.
edit
on the off chance that Bartholomew/ wife are relatives, he served in the CW, and has a pension index card in 1891. fwiw.
http://www.rcda.org/parishes_rensselaer.html
churches in the area… with date of founding and emails…
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