Do you agree with advocates for illegals that these crimes never happened ?
Tony Bologna, 48, and his two sons, 20-year-old Michael and 16-year-old Matthew, were gunned down at an intersection in June. Police arrested Edwin Ramos, a native of El Salvador, who they say mistook the Bolognas for rival gang members.
Ramos has been charged with three counts of murder and is awaiting trial. He has pleaded not guilty.
The claim states that the city knew Ramos was a member of Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, with a violent past, but failed to report him as required by federal law to Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials.
The claim alleges the city knew Ramos "would likely murder men simply because they appeared to be Latino or African American."
"When a city is violating federal law and that violation of law leads to horrific consequences like this, then the city has clearly acted in a negligent manner," said one of the Bologna’s attorneys, Kris Kobach, an immigration law professor at University of Missouri, Kansas City School of Law. http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_10279482?nclick_check=1
Francis Hernandez, the man being held for suspicion of vehicular homicide in the deaths, is now being detained by federal immigration officials.
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials sent a faxed detainer on Hernandez, 23, at 12:04 a.m. Saturday, indicating his U.S. citizenship is under question, according to Arapahoe County jail officials and federal authorities.
Hernandez has been arrested 16 times in five years in Colorado but apparently has never been deported, according to Colorado Bureau of Investigation records
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_10401431
You’ll recall that Carranza was an illegal alien out on bail
on child abuse charges. Victim Dashon Harvey’s dad decried the sanctuary climate:This is one that slipped through the cracks. He’s an illegal alien,” said outraged dad James Harvey, whose son Dashon was murdered last Saturday, along with Terrance Aeriel and Iofemi Hightower.
While 28-year-old day laborer Jose Lachira Carranza was behind bars yesterday, prosecutors arrested a third suspect, who is 15 years old, in Morristown, and charged him with felony murder.
Another 15-year-old has also been charged.
Harvey said that Carranza, the alleged ringleader, “should never have been out in the first
place.”
“He’s got child abuse charges. He’s got a weapon. It’s an outrage to the justice system and the community that he’s out.”
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/09/an_essex_county_grand_jury.html
The advocates for illegals are claiming these are all made up stories and no such events ever took place as every illegal is deported, do you agree Y/N/Unsure ?
Just like illegal aliens can not collect any government benefits because it is against the law. But then again if we take it a step further there are no illegal aliens because that is against the law. So to the final step: They didn’t happen as there are no illegal aliens in the US to break the law because that is against the law.
Pro-criminal logic! Isn’t it amazing!
Report, deport and repeat!
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Who says that the crimes never happened?
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It would be unreasonable to make such a claim. But it would be much more unreasonable to claim that such events are the norm. The vast majority of illegal aliens do exactly the same things as citizens do: try to earn a buck, raise the kids, and hope for a better life.
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Advocates for illegal immigrants never said it didn’t happen. What they are saying is that Edwin Ramos is responsible for his own actions; no other immigrant (legal or illegal) is responsible for his actions.
The anti-illegal immigrant movement is attempting to make every single immigrant responsible for the actions of the few.
I am willing to go along with this myself. But first you guys must prove to me that you believe we are responsible for each others’ actions. If you go and take responsibility for every crime ever committed by an American, go take responsiblity for every murder and rape and burglary and even jaywalking and so on, and accept the consequences; then I will accept that immigrants are responsible for each other. Then I will personally lead the attack to get rid of all of them.
But you must first take responsibility for all Americans, if you are going to expect them to take responsibility for each other. If the "if one is responsible all are responsible" rule is good enough for Mexican humans (or El Salvadoran or Cuban or etc.), then its good enough for American humans.
But if you will not take responsiblity for the actions of others, then I will assume that means we are all responsible for only OUR OWN ACTIONS, and only hold Edwin Ramos responsible for his actions–AND NO ONE ELSE.
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I think that some advocates for illegals have this mindset.
I do believe that the crimes happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbhIkvIkwLM
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Sorry! but I think your trying to mislead people again as always.
Nobody ever said those crimes never happened.
Are you trying to twist your stories around like Lou Dobbs does? or are you really Lou Dobbs?
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Just like illegal aliens can not collect any government benefits because it is against the law. But then again if we take it a step further there are no illegal aliens because that is against the law. So to the final step: They didn’t happen as there are no illegal aliens in the US to break the law because that is against the law.
Pro-criminal logic! Isn’t it amazing!
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You cant believe anything the say because they are more tainted then an arsenic tonic. I worry about the crime that are committed by illegals that never get recorded because they disappear into the shadows. If we work together we can turn this thing around.
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Do your part and mow your own lawn and stop hiring illegals