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Why do most people think the Native Americans got "slaughtered"???

February 22nd, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments

Like the Cherokee, most tribes were isolated and with a decentralized government with allowed the British, French, Spanish, and finally the U.S. to defeat them in battle or very well lose about half a dozen wars to induce treaties like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_H…

"In his book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, amateur historian William M. Osborn sought to tally every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans, and 7,193 people died from those perpetrated by Europeans. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded, and prisoners.[3]"
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I also have counted the battles east and west of the Mississippi and the tally is something around, 8,727 (Amerindians) to 11,217 (U.S./British/French)

The area around the Great Lakes was a stalemate represented by Pontiac’s Rebellion, so I won’t go there.

Sources:
American Revolution (1775–1783)
Chickamauga Wars (1776-1794)
Northwest Indian War (1785–1795)
Nickajack Expedition (1794)
Sabine Expedition (1806)
War of 1812 (1811–1815), including:
Tecumseh’s War (1811–1813)
Creek War (1813–1814)
Peoria War (1813)
First Seminole War (1817–1818)
Winnebago War (1827)
Black Hawk War (1832)
Pawnee Indian Territory Campaign (1834)
Creek Alabama Uprising (1835-1837)
Florida-Georgia Border War (1836)
Second Seminole War (1835–1842)
Missouri-Iowa Border War (1836)
Southwestern Frontier (Sabine) disturbances (no fighting) (1836–1837)
Osage Indian War (1837)
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Sources:
Texas-Indian Wars (1836–1875), including:
Great Raid of 1840 (1840)
Antelope Hills Expedition (1858)
Battle of Pease River (1860)
Red River War (1874–1875)
Puget Sound War (1855–1856)
Dakota War of 1862 (1862)
Colorado War (1863–1865)
Red Cloud’s War (1866–1868)
Comanche Campaign (1868–1874)
Black Hills War (1876–1877)
Nez Perce War (1877)
Pine Ridge Campaign (1890)

The Sixty Years’ War (1754–1814) was a military struggle for control of the Great Lakes region in North America, encompassing a number of wars over several generations. The term Sixty Years’ War is not widely known, and is used primarily by academic historians who specialize in various aspects of the conflict. Traditionally, the war for control of the Great Lakes region has been written about only in reference to the individual wars; the designation Sixty Years’ War provides a framework for viewing this era as a continuous whole.
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Actually, I have a lot of history books. Flames Across the Border, Pierre Berton — Dictionary of Wars: Third Edition — Stolen Continents: 500 years of Conquest and Resistance — some others at my library i read that I forget.
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I can see some of you actually read my details, but for the rest, here is what usually happened:

Great Lakes region of North America
Result Military stalemate; American Indians concede British sovereignty but compel British policy changes
Territorial
changes Portage around Niagara Falls ceded by Senecas to the British

Belligerents
British Empire American Indians
Commanders
Jeffrey Amherst,
Henry Bouquet Pontiac,
Guyasuta
Strength
~3,000 soldiers[1] ~3,500 warriors[2]
Casualties and losses
450 soldiers killed,
2,000 civilians killed or captured,
4,000 civilians displaced ~200 warriors killed, possible additional war-related deaths from DISEASE <——– 😉
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Anyway, I can see some of you don’t like to read books so I’ll conclude by saying, "We fought and fought like Braves to compel respect. We inflicted just as much casualties as you did us, yet the few times like the Navajo gets routed and sent far from their homeland overrides the victories of the Seminole, Chichimeca, Mapuche, Tlaxcallas, Zacateco, Guachichil, Iroquois, Comanche (who NEVER gave up their homeland to this day), and countless other tribes like us Cree and Anishnabe who hold vast amounts of land to this day. I know in my heart that, like in Europe — which was ravage to the point of 1/3 its population dying from the Plague ALONE — the Creator’s diseases is what killed my people."

It wasn’t the battles fought and lost that caused the near genocide of the first nations on Turtle Island, it was the thievery and genocidal actions of the Settler culture.
Read, for one: The State of Native America : genocide, colonization, and resistance

  1. Joel R
    February 23rd, 2010 at 02:00 | #1

    There is no doubt they fought valiantly. That being said they would still be here today were it not for the Europeans.

    My mistake in saying that they would still be here today. I should have said in large numbers, or something to that effect.
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  2. BlackTexan09
    February 23rd, 2010 at 02:24 | #2

    Cause they fu**in did. It was genocide. Do the math, its about under 1 percent of NA blood left here while the rest is about 75% white. U do the math man. I dont think they just moved ttheir a** outta here mostly like the trail of tears. I dont care if u litterally slaughter theyre a** if u come over and produce someone elses death like that n great numbers thats genocide and genocide=the slaughter of a race
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  3. Cobra Status
    February 23rd, 2010 at 02:48 | #3

    The Army would hang disease filled blankets upwind or give them blankets with small pox in the winter because the Natives had no antibiotics and disease is what killed most of them. Whenever you step over that line and do something like that then it becomes evil and genocide.
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  4. prairie fire
    February 23rd, 2010 at 02:59 | #4

    now that ya mentioned tons of new tribes that were distroyed watch the lenapes clubs from pa try to impress upon you non natives that THEY are the true decendants again…these bands/poser clubs tend to change theyre bloodlines alot. when the next year comes they will be new tribe of indians but still lenapes..LOL the goot jokers all of them even with names after coyotes farts.LOL…
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    geez! I haveta be saying this..LOL

  5. Dan H majicman medican
    February 23rd, 2010 at 03:11 | #5

    The white-man disease killed off many the reservations starved many the winters killed with no wood to burn and food that was not given to as promised the marches killed they were treated like animals and were never apologize by this nation yet!!!Many of my clan were raped and murdered !!!
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  6. NativeAmericanUnity
    February 23rd, 2010 at 03:31 | #6

    The non native people came with one goal in mind…to take our land by whatever means necessary….yes they murdered our people and raped our culture…they did this out of sheer ignorance and greed….there is no other explanation for it.

    With respect,

    NAU ~ Native American Unity

    Incidently Joel R….we are STILL here 🙂 And still fighting against the oppression of non native people!
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  7. lakota
    February 23rd, 2010 at 04:09 | #7

    the europeans fought dirty, dont forget all the buffalo they wiped out, what they did as a whole was disgraceful, yea the natives fought back and gave them a good pounding because it was their lands to defend, their familys, culture and lifestyle to protect! the europeans were lying, greedy murderers!

    sandcreek- Location Kiowa County, Colorado
    Date November 29, 1864
    Weapon(s) Private and armoried guns, incinerations, mayhem
    Deaths ~200 friendly Cheyenne, Arapaho, mostly elderly men, various aged women and children
    Injured 15 killed, 50+ wounded among United States troops
    Perpetrator(s) mostly irregular Union forces commanded by John M. Chivington in the Colorado War (during the Civil War)

    1598 Acoma Massacre In retaliation for the killing of 11 Spanish soldiers, Juan de Oñate led punitive expedition to slaughter the natives in a three-day battle at the Acoma mesa. Approx. 800 dead. Spain’s King later punished Oñate for his excesses

    1623 Pamunkey Peace Talks The English poisoned the wine at a "peace conference" with Powhatan leaders, killing ca. 200 and another 50 by hand in retaliation for the Jamestown Massacre.

    1637 May 26 Mystic Massacre English colonists commanded by John Underhill, with Mohegan and Narragansett allies, launched a night attack a large Pequot village on the Mystic River in what is now Connecticut, burning the inhabitants alive and killing the survivors, with about 600-700 killed.

    August 1 Battle of Bad Axe Around 150 Indian men, women and children were killed in Wisconsin by soldiers under General Henry Atkinson and armed volunteers

    Bloody Island Massacre The murder of 60-100 Pomo people on Bo-no-po-ti island near Clear Lake, (Lake Co., California), by Nathaniel Lyon and his U. S. Army detachment, in retribution for the killing of two Clear Lake settlers who had been abusing and murdering Pomo people. (The Island Pomos had no connections to the enslaved Pomos). This incident led to a general mass killing of native people all over Northern California.

    1853 Before December 31 "Ox" incident Unreported number of Indians were killed in the Four Creeks area (Tulare Co., California) in "our little difficulty" and "the chastisement they have received

    August 17 Kaibai Creek Massacre Forty-two Winnemem Wintu men, women and children were killed by white settlers at Kaibai Creek, California.

    1855 January 22 Klamath River massacres In retaliation for the murder of 6 white people and stealing of some cattle, "whites" commenced a "war of extermination against the Indians" in Humboldt Co., California

    1860 February 26 Gunther Island Massacre About 188 Wiyot Indians, mostly women and children, were killed by white settlers in Humboldt County, California, during one of three simultaneous assaults on the Wiyot

    1863 January 29 Bear River Massacre Col. Patrick Connor led a regiment killing at least 200 Indian men, women and children near Preston, Idaho.

    1865-1871 Yahi Massacres Several massacres of native encampments by American settlers exterminated the 200 members of the Yahi tribe, such as the first in 1865 (74 killed), the 1866 Three Knolls (40 killed) and Dry Camp (33 killed) massacres, ending with the Kingsley Cave/Morgan Camp massacre (30 killed) in 1871. The Yahi were Ishi’s tribe.

    1870 January 23 Marias Massacre White Americans killed 173 Piegans, mainly women, children and the elderly.

    1871 Camp Grant Massacre Led by ex-Tucson mayor, William Oury, a vigilante band from Tucson slaughtered Apache women and children while the men were doing their spring planting. More than 100 dead.

    1879 January 8 Ft Robinson Massacre Northern Cheyenne under Dull Knife attempted to escape from confinement in Fort Robinson, Nebraska; about fifty survived.

    1890 December 29 Wounded Knee Massacre 128 Sioux men, women and children are massacred by US soldiers at Wounded Knee, South Dakota.
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  8. yahknot
    February 23rd, 2010 at 04:49 | #8

    It wasn’t the battles fought and lost that caused the near genocide of the first nations on Turtle Island, it was the thievery and genocidal actions of the Settler culture.
    Read, for one: The State of Native America : genocide, colonization, and resistance
    References :
    The State of Native America : genocide, colonization, and resistance
    Boston, MA : South End Press, 1992.
    Ed.: Jaimes, M. Annette.

  9. OgamaWab
    February 23rd, 2010 at 04:59 | #9

    I am from Ontario Canada and many of us are full bloods NDN. (Anishnawbe) – Nishnawbe Aski First Nation

    I am still here.

    http://www.nan.on.ca/
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