Some help needed on new clues to ancestry ; Does Family Crest allow you to access 1841 Scotland Census?
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-834926459&pid=-834926459&tid=9210729&pg=0
On this link, the page I’m looking for help on is the third link (1880 United States Federal Census Record). It says he was born in ”about 1873”, which sounds right, because on the 1930 Census, it says my grandfather (Thomas Madigan’s) father was 57 years old. It says his father’s name was Patrick. Does it say who his mother was? I know it says John Madigan was born in the state of New York, but does it say where specifically? Don’t worry about the 4th link. I already have the information from the second link on this link. If you’d like, you could check this page, to see if there’s any leads. On the 1st link, this may show where he was born. The year of death is probably off though. The 1910 Census, taken in April 15 1910, recorded John Madigan as 34 years ago, so it’s possible he was born in 1876 or 1877.
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-706941509&pid=-706941509&tid=9210729&pg=0
If the first link is correct, than it’s possible the 1st link on this site is too. If John Madigan was born in 1873, it’s possible that his father, Patrick, was born before 1841, to be taking in the Scotland Census Record in 1841. This says he was born in Ireland, so I’m unsure of why he may have lived in Lanarkshire, Scotland at the time. I’m not sure what information this link will give, but what ever there is, whether it’s his parents, siblings or immigration record, it’s helpful. I’m not sure what the 2nd and 3rd links say, but there could be information there too.
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-709380172&pid=-709380172&tid=9210729&pg=0
On this link, I’m looking to obtain information from the 3rd link. I previous found information on her in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 Censuses, but there could be other information, such as what part of New York she may have been born in, that might be listed on this link. Or there may be useful information on her parents that weren’t listed in later Censuses.
My grandmother told me the name was Finley. It could be Findley though. I didn’t ask her how it was spelled, but I will next time I speak to her, if she knows.
My maternal grandfather’s mother’s maiden name is Finley (Or Findley). My maternal grandmother’s mother’s maiden name is Castino. On her father’s side, I’m not sure what paternal grandmother’s maiden name is, but I’ll look at the clues you’ve shown.
Did you know that you can access a transcript of the 1880 census for free at www.familysearch.org? Have a look 🙂
I’ll see if I can find anything else useful.
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I don’t think that 1880 family with father Patrick is right.
If the 1910 census is right John should be married by 1900 but I found John (whose father is Patrick) still living at home in 1900.
John P Madigan
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 13, Kings, New York
Age: 24
Birth Date: Jan 1876
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Birthplace: Ireland
Mother’s Name: Mary
Mother’s Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single
Mary Madigan 50
Mary F Madigan 28
Terence F Madigan 24
John P Madigan 24
(Patrick had died but siblings match)
I’ll try and find the right John.
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You said Margaret’s maiden name is Finley? Is that what your grandma told you? Have you seen this record from familysearch.org?
John Madigan Pedigree
Male Family
Parents:
Father: Daniel
Mother: Mary Molaney
Marriages:
Spouse: Margaret Findley OR Finley Family
Marriage:
24 JUL 1898 Manhattan, New York, New York
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Don’t get too sidetracked by Ancestry’s hints, they come up with all these matches to try and get you to subscribe.
Did you know that you can access a transcript of the 1880 census for free at http://www.familysearch.org? Have a look 🙂
I’ll see if I can find anything else useful.
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Edit
I don’t think that 1880 family with father Patrick is right.
If the 1910 census is right John should be married by 1900 but I found John (whose father is Patrick) still living at home in 1900.
John P Madigan
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 13, Kings, New York
Age: 24
Birth Date: Jan 1876
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Birthplace: Ireland
Mother’s Name: Mary
Mother’s Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single
Mary Madigan 50
Mary F Madigan 28
Terence F Madigan 24
John P Madigan 24
(Patrick had died but siblings match)
I’ll try and find the right John.
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You said Margaret’s maiden name is Finley? Is that what your grandma told you? Have you seen this record from familysearch.org?
John Madigan Pedigree
Male Family
Parents:
Father: Daniel
Mother: Mary Molaney
Marriages:
Spouse: Margaret Findley OR Finley Family
Marriage:
24 JUL 1898 Manhattan, New York, New York
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Don’t get too sidetracked by Ancestry’s hints, they come up with all these matches to try and get you to subscribe.
References :
I think the best place to find records for Scotland on line is
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
this is a subscription site run and maintained by the Scottish Executive and brings together most records under one banner.
hope this helps
Good luck and good hunting
References :
http://www.ancestry.com —1880 United States Federal Census
Name: John Madigan
Home in 1880: Kings (Brooklyn), New York City-Greater, New York
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father’s Name: PATRICK (age 52; b. abt. 1828; occupation: shoemaker)
Father’s birthplace: Ireland
Mother’s Name: MARY (age 42; b. abt. 1838; occupation: keeping house)
Mother’s birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Madigan 52
Mary Madigan 42
Mary Madigan 17
James Madigan 14
Thomas Madigan 9
Terence Madigan 7
John Madigan 7
Cornelius Madigan 4
1841 Scotland Census
Name: Patrick Madigan
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Airdrie
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Stirling St
Parish Number: 651
His father?
Name: Baurance Madigan (only info I can find on him. Wonder if his name is spelled right??)
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Airdrie
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Stirling St
Mother??
Name: Marget Madigan
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Sister??
Name: Mary Jean Madigan
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Airdrie
County: Lanarkshire
http://www.familysearch.org —1880 census
John’s brother, Thomas MADIGAN, is shown to be born in NY in 1871.
Brother, James MADIGAN , was born in ENGLAND in 1866, and sister
Mary was born also in ENGLAND in 1863. Two other brothers, Terence MADIGAN (possibly a twin to Thomas as they were born the same year), and Cornelius, born in 1876, were also born in New York.
So, the family moved to the US sometime between 1866 and 1871.
(Note: Couldn’t find much else about him. I wondered if the move to Scotland could be due to the Great Irish Potato Famine, but it didn’t really begin until 1845.
You asked, "Does Family Crest allow you to access 1841 Scotland Census?" My answer–No, just a world deluxe membership to ancestry.com. LOL)
References :
http://www.ancestry.com
http://www.familysearch.org