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Some help needed on new clues to ancestry ; Does Family Crest allow you to access 1841 Scotland Census?

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-834926459&pid=-834926459&tid=9210729&pg=0

On this link, the page I’m looking for help on is the third link (1880 United States Federal Census Record). It says he was born in ”about 1873”, which sounds right, because on the 1930 Census, it says my grandfather (Thomas Madigan’s) father was 57 years old. It says his father’s name was Patrick. Does it say who his mother was? I know it says John Madigan was born in the state of New York, but does it say where specifically? Don’t worry about the 4th link. I already have the information from the second link on this link. If you’d like, you could check this page, to see if there’s any leads. On the 1st link, this may show where he was born. The year of death is probably off though. The 1910 Census, taken in April 15 1910, recorded John Madigan as 34 years ago, so it’s possible he was born in 1876 or 1877.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-706941509&pid=-706941509&tid=9210729&pg=0

If the first link is correct, than it’s possible the 1st link on this site is too. If John Madigan was born in 1873, it’s possible that his father, Patrick, was born before 1841, to be taking in the Scotland Census Record in 1841. This says he was born in Ireland, so I’m unsure of why he may have lived in Lanarkshire, Scotland at the time. I’m not sure what information this link will give, but what ever there is, whether it’s his parents, siblings or immigration record, it’s helpful. I’m not sure what the 2nd and 3rd links say, but there could be information there too.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-709380172&pid=-709380172&tid=9210729&pg=0

On this link, I’m looking to obtain information from the 3rd link. I previous found information on her in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 Censuses, but there could be other information, such as what part of New York she may have been born in, that might be listed on this link. Or there may be useful information on her parents that weren’t listed in later Censuses.
My grandmother told me the name was Finley. It could be Findley though. I didn’t ask her how it was spelled, but I will next time I speak to her, if she knows.
My maternal grandfather’s mother’s maiden name is Finley (Or Findley). My maternal grandmother’s mother’s maiden name is Castino. On her father’s side, I’m not sure what paternal grandmother’s maiden name is, but I’ll look at the clues you’ve shown.

Did you know that you can access a transcript of the 1880 census for free at www.familysearch.org? Have a look 🙂

I’ll see if I can find anything else useful.
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I don’t think that 1880 family with father Patrick is right.
If the 1910 census is right John should be married by 1900 but I found John (whose father is Patrick) still living at home in 1900.

John P Madigan
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 13, Kings, New York
Age: 24
Birth Date: Jan 1876
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Birthplace: Ireland
Mother’s Name: Mary
Mother’s Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single

Mary Madigan 50
Mary F Madigan 28
Terence F Madigan 24
John P Madigan 24

(Patrick had died but siblings match)

I’ll try and find the right John.

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You said Margaret’s maiden name is Finley? Is that what your grandma told you? Have you seen this record from familysearch.org?

John Madigan Pedigree
Male Family

Parents:
Father: Daniel
Mother: Mary Molaney

Marriages:
Spouse: Margaret Findley OR Finley Family
Marriage:
24 JUL 1898 Manhattan, New York, New York

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Don’t get too sidetracked by Ancestry’s hints, they come up with all these matches to try and get you to subscribe.

  1. Tukmyhamster
    April 5th, 2010 at 16:25 | #1

    Did you know that you can access a transcript of the 1880 census for free at http://www.familysearch.org? Have a look 🙂

    I’ll see if I can find anything else useful.
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    Edit
    I don’t think that 1880 family with father Patrick is right.
    If the 1910 census is right John should be married by 1900 but I found John (whose father is Patrick) still living at home in 1900.

    John P Madigan
    Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 13, Kings, New York
    Age: 24
    Birth Date: Jan 1876
    Birthplace: New York
    Race: White
    Ethnicity: American
    Gender: Male
    Relationship to head-of-house: Son
    Father’s Birthplace: Ireland
    Mother’s Name: Mary
    Mother’s Birthplace: Ireland
    Marital Status: Single

    Mary Madigan 50
    Mary F Madigan 28
    Terence F Madigan 24
    John P Madigan 24

    (Patrick had died but siblings match)

    I’ll try and find the right John.

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    Edit
    You said Margaret’s maiden name is Finley? Is that what your grandma told you? Have you seen this record from familysearch.org?

    John Madigan Pedigree
    Male Family

    Parents:
    Father: Daniel
    Mother: Mary Molaney

    Marriages:
    Spouse: Margaret Findley OR Finley Family
    Marriage:
    24 JUL 1898 Manhattan, New York, New York

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    Edit
    Don’t get too sidetracked by Ancestry’s hints, they come up with all these matches to try and get you to subscribe.
    References :

  2. Benthebus
    April 5th, 2010 at 16:36 | #2

    I think the best place to find records for Scotland on line is

    http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

    this is a subscription site run and maintained by the Scottish Executive and brings together most records under one banner.

    hope this helps

    Good luck and good hunting
    References :

  3. jan51601
    April 5th, 2010 at 17:25 | #3

    http://www.ancestry.com —1880 United States Federal Census
    Name: John Madigan
    Home in 1880: Kings (Brooklyn), New York City-Greater, New York
    Age: 7
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
    Birthplace: New York
    Relation to Head of Household: Son
    Father’s Name: PATRICK (age 52; b. abt. 1828; occupation: shoemaker)
    Father’s birthplace: Ireland
    Mother’s Name: MARY (age 42; b. abt. 1838; occupation: keeping house)
    Mother’s birthplace: Ireland
    Marital Status: Single
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Household Members: Name Age
    Patrick Madigan 52
    Mary Madigan 42
    Mary Madigan 17
    James Madigan 14
    Thomas Madigan 9
    Terence Madigan 7
    John Madigan 7
    Cornelius Madigan 4

    1841 Scotland Census
    Name: Patrick Madigan
    Age: 7
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Ireland
    Civil Parish: Airdrie
    County: Lanarkshire
    Address: Stirling St
    Parish Number: 651

    His father?
    Name: Baurance Madigan (only info I can find on him. Wonder if his name is spelled right??)
    Age: 30
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Ireland
    Civil Parish: Airdrie
    County: Lanarkshire
    Address: Stirling St

    Mother??
    Name: Marget Madigan
    Age: 30
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
    Gender: Female
    Where born: Ireland

    Sister??
    Name: Mary Jean Madigan
    Age: 1 Mo
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
    Gender: Female
    Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
    Civil Parish: Airdrie
    County: Lanarkshire

    http://www.familysearch.org —1880 census
    John’s brother, Thomas MADIGAN, is shown to be born in NY in 1871.
    Brother, James MADIGAN , was born in ENGLAND in 1866, and sister
    Mary was born also in ENGLAND in 1863. Two other brothers, Terence MADIGAN (possibly a twin to Thomas as they were born the same year), and Cornelius, born in 1876, were also born in New York.
    So, the family moved to the US sometime between 1866 and 1871.

    (Note: Couldn’t find much else about him. I wondered if the move to Scotland could be due to the Great Irish Potato Famine, but it didn’t really begin until 1845.
    You asked, "Does Family Crest allow you to access 1841 Scotland Census?" My answer–No, just a world deluxe membership to ancestry.com. LOL)
    References :
    http://www.ancestry.com
    http://www.familysearch.org

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