Why do Republicans back Guiliani after his incompetent handling of 9/11?
This clown puts an emergency center in the WTC AFTER the 1993 bombing, communications systems WERE NOT upgraded, even though Islamic terrrorists had made it known New York City was a target and needlessly cuased respiratory illnesses with a rushed clean up of the WTC site.
Guiliani is nothing but a dirtbag giving photo ops AFTER 9/11, shamelessly exploiting 3000 deaths for his benefit and to cover up his incompetence of allowing and causing death, illness and injury.
but here’s hoping Guiliani is the Republican nominee, the record he runs on is the record which deserves to be attacked.
Yes, I’d have the guts to question Guiliani and given the propensity of Republicans blaming Clinton for 9/11, this is no rant, but a real question.
I might give Guiliani a pass on lack of preparations for 9/11 IF the 1993 WTC bombing had not taken place and IF how the sheik who planned the 1993 bombing had said things showing it was still a target.
In fact, I would LOVE to question Guiliani about his lack of preparations allowing extra deaths of 9/11. I would love to have those questions broadcast live! It’s EVERYONE ELSE who lacks the guts to question Guiliani.
If Guiliani wants to answer this question, he can do so as well as the reply with article critical of Guiliani, he can do so!
Might as well do it now, if he gets the nomination, hope can be a "Firefighters for the truth" group that forms.
Actually your assertion is absolutely correct, I thank God there are still people like you who don’t jump onto the media bandwagon and actually bother to do the research..
Here you go straight from msnbc news:
Giuliani faces questions about Sept. 11
Post-terrorist attack hero status challenged by some firefighters’ families
NEW YORK – Rudy Giuliani’s White House aspirations are inescapably tied to Sept. 11, 2001 – for better and for worse.
While the former mayor of the nation’s largest city was widely lionized for his post-9/11 leadership – "Churchillian" was one adjective, "America’s mayor" was Oprah Winfrey’s assessment – city firefighters and their families are renewing their attacks on him for his performance before and after the terrorist attack.
"If Rudolph Giuliani was running on anything but 9/11, I would not speak out," said Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was among the 343 FDNY members killed in the terrorist attack. "If he ran on cleaning up Times Square, getting rid of squeegee men, lowering crime – that’s indisputable
"But when he runs on 9/11, I want the American people to know he was part of the problem."
Such comments contradict Giuliani’s post-Sept. 11 profile as a hero and symbol of the city’s resilience – the steadfast leader who calmed the nerves of a rattled nation. But as the presidential campaign intensifies, criticisms of his 2001 performance are resurfacing.
‘He disrespected us in the most horrific way’
Giuliani, the leader in polls of Republican voters for his party’s nomination, has been faulted on two major issues:
– His administration’s failure to provide the World Trade Center’s first responders with adequate radios, a long-standing complaint from relatives of the firefighters killed when the twin towers collapsed. The Sept. 11 Commission noted the firefighters at the World Trade Center were using the same ineffective radios employed by the first responders to the 1993 terrorist attack on the trade center.
Regenhard, at a 2004 commission hearing in Manhattan, screamed at Giuliani, "My son was murdered because of your incompetence!" The hearing was a perfect example of the 9/11 duality: Commission members universally praised Giuliani at the same event.
– A November 2001 decision to step up removal of the massive rubble pile at ground zero. The firefighters were angered when the then-mayor reduced their numbers among the group searching for remains of their lost "brothers," focusing instead on what they derided as a "scoop and dump" approach. Giuliani agreed to increase the number of firefighters at ground zero just days after ordering the cutback.
More than 5 1/2 years later, body parts are still turning up in the trade center site.
"We want America to know what this guy meant to New York City firefighters," said Peter Gorman, head of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association. "In our experiences with this man, he disrespected us in the most horrific way."
The two-term mayor, in his appearance before the Sept. 11 Commission, said the blame for the death and destruction of Sept. 11 belonged solely with the terrorists. "There was not a problem of coordination on Sept. 11," he testified.
Giuliani was also criticized for locating the city’s emergency center in 7 World Trade Center, a building that contained thousands of gallons of diesel fuel when it collapsed after the terrorist attack.
The politics of 9/11
The lingering ill will between Giuliani and firefighters was resurrected when the International Association of Fire Fighters initially decided not to invite the former mayor to its March 14 candidates forum in Washington. Other prominent presidential hopefuls, including Republican John McCain and Democrats Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards, addressed the nation’s largest firefighters union.
According to the Giuliani camp, the contretemps with the union dates to tough contract negotiations in his second term as mayor. His critics deny any political motivation.
The IAFF drafted a membership letter – it was never sent – that excoriated Giuliani and promised to tell "the real story" about his role in handling the terrorist attack
The then-mayor’s decision to change policy on the ground zero recovery effort was "an offensive and personal attack" on firefighters, the letter said, going on to say that Giuliani’s "disrespect … has not been forgotten or forgiven."
Giuliani countered the attacks by releasing an open letter of support from retired firefighter Lee Ielpi, whose firefighter son was among the 2,749 victims on Sept. 11. "Firefighters have no greater friend and supporter than Rudy Giuliani," Ielpi said.
A contingent of nearly 100 South Carolina firefighters also expressed their support for Giuliani and his White House hopes.
Hank Sheinkopf, a veteran political consultant, predicted the 9/11 criticisms could resonate beyond New York during the presidential campaign.
"These are very emotional people who will touch a responsive chord with a lot of the electorate," he said. "The things that the 9/11 families say will wind up in television commercials used against Rudy Giuliani."
The issues also have forced Giuliani to try to strike a balance to avoid the perception that he’s exploiting the attacks for his own personal gain. President Bush faced the same challenge in 2004 when he invoked the attacks to portray himself as a strong and steady leader in the face of terrorism. Some victims’ relatives criticized Bush for using the ruins of the World Trade Center in his campaign commercials, while others defended him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17869046/
He is a step up from who is in office now.
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You got those Monday Morning Quarterback Blues…
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I am thinking this isn’t a question, you just needed to vent and try to get your OPINION across
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I am not a supporter of Mr. Giuliani. However, you comments are totally out of line. I challenge you to make your statements directly to Mr. Giuliani. I suspect you won’t have the guts to do it.
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You can judge but what would you have done?? Who would have thought that someone was going to put a plane through a building. Having the center there meant it was gonna be safe. Turns out they did it with planes. No way to plan for that.
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Giuliani is a fraud that has been exposed, there is now way the Republican base with back him…
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Because he’s popular.
Personally, I think you are giving him too much credit. Remember his offices were in Building 7.
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He was on one of those Sunday Morning News shows not too long ago. I think it was Stephanopoulos’ show. Anyway, Guiliani was sweating profusely, as if he just did a line of cocaine. Or maybe he was sweating because he was lying too much. I kind of felt sorry for the guy.
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Twenty seven % of Rs have said they will not vote for Rudy under ANY circumstances due to his position on social issues.
Pleeease nominate Mr. Ghouliani.
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His handling of 9/11 was not incompetent. This was not a situation ANYONE could have been prepared for or handle. He did the best he could and there is not one person on the planet who could have done a better job. By the way, he lost many friends and colleagues that day.
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One person’s opinion . There are others .
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Obviously, it takes a bunch of idiots to elect one.
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Actually your assertion is absolutely correct, I thank God there are still people like you who don’t jump onto the media bandwagon and actually bother to do the research..
Here you go straight from msnbc news:
Giuliani faces questions about Sept. 11
Post-terrorist attack hero status challenged by some firefighters’ families
NEW YORK – Rudy Giuliani’s White House aspirations are inescapably tied to Sept. 11, 2001 – for better and for worse.
While the former mayor of the nation’s largest city was widely lionized for his post-9/11 leadership – "Churchillian" was one adjective, "America’s mayor" was Oprah Winfrey’s assessment – city firefighters and their families are renewing their attacks on him for his performance before and after the terrorist attack.
"If Rudolph Giuliani was running on anything but 9/11, I would not speak out," said Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was among the 343 FDNY members killed in the terrorist attack. "If he ran on cleaning up Times Square, getting rid of squeegee men, lowering crime – that’s indisputable
"But when he runs on 9/11, I want the American people to know he was part of the problem."
Such comments contradict Giuliani’s post-Sept. 11 profile as a hero and symbol of the city’s resilience – the steadfast leader who calmed the nerves of a rattled nation. But as the presidential campaign intensifies, criticisms of his 2001 performance are resurfacing.
‘He disrespected us in the most horrific way’
Giuliani, the leader in polls of Republican voters for his party’s nomination, has been faulted on two major issues:
– His administration’s failure to provide the World Trade Center’s first responders with adequate radios, a long-standing complaint from relatives of the firefighters killed when the twin towers collapsed. The Sept. 11 Commission noted the firefighters at the World Trade Center were using the same ineffective radios employed by the first responders to the 1993 terrorist attack on the trade center.
Regenhard, at a 2004 commission hearing in Manhattan, screamed at Giuliani, "My son was murdered because of your incompetence!" The hearing was a perfect example of the 9/11 duality: Commission members universally praised Giuliani at the same event.
– A November 2001 decision to step up removal of the massive rubble pile at ground zero. The firefighters were angered when the then-mayor reduced their numbers among the group searching for remains of their lost "brothers," focusing instead on what they derided as a "scoop and dump" approach. Giuliani agreed to increase the number of firefighters at ground zero just days after ordering the cutback.
More than 5 1/2 years later, body parts are still turning up in the trade center site.
"We want America to know what this guy meant to New York City firefighters," said Peter Gorman, head of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association. "In our experiences with this man, he disrespected us in the most horrific way."
The two-term mayor, in his appearance before the Sept. 11 Commission, said the blame for the death and destruction of Sept. 11 belonged solely with the terrorists. "There was not a problem of coordination on Sept. 11," he testified.
Giuliani was also criticized for locating the city’s emergency center in 7 World Trade Center, a building that contained thousands of gallons of diesel fuel when it collapsed after the terrorist attack.
The politics of 9/11
The lingering ill will between Giuliani and firefighters was resurrected when the International Association of Fire Fighters initially decided not to invite the former mayor to its March 14 candidates forum in Washington. Other prominent presidential hopefuls, including Republican John McCain and Democrats Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards, addressed the nation’s largest firefighters union.
According to the Giuliani camp, the contretemps with the union dates to tough contract negotiations in his second term as mayor. His critics deny any political motivation.
The IAFF drafted a membership letter – it was never sent – that excoriated Giuliani and promised to tell "the real story" about his role in handling the terrorist attack
The then-mayor’s decision to change policy on the ground zero recovery effort was "an offensive and personal attack" on firefighters, the letter said, going on to say that Giuliani’s "disrespect … has not been forgotten or forgiven."
Giuliani countered the attacks by releasing an open letter of support from retired firefighter Lee Ielpi, whose firefighter son was among the 2,749 victims on Sept. 11. "Firefighters have no greater friend and supporter than Rudy Giuliani," Ielpi said.
A contingent of nearly 100 South Carolina firefighters also expressed their support for Giuliani and his White House hopes.
Hank Sheinkopf, a veteran political consultant, predicted the 9/11 criticisms could resonate beyond New York during the presidential campaign.
"These are very emotional people who will touch a responsive chord with a lot of the electorate," he said. "The things that the 9/11 families say will wind up in television commercials used against Rudy Giuliani."
The issues also have forced Giuliani to try to strike a balance to avoid the perception that he’s exploiting the attacks for his own personal gain. President Bush faced the same challenge in 2004 when he invoked the attacks to portray himself as a strong and steady leader in the face of terrorism. Some victims’ relatives criticized Bush for using the ruins of the World Trade Center in his campaign commercials, while others defended him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17869046/
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