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If your son or loved one was beaten to death by 5 or 6 Fullerton police officers what would you do?

September 4th, 2011 4 comments

In Fullerton California, you saw our police officers beating a man to death. This mayor and police chief?
The mayor should be replaced, the police chief should be fired and the police officers who did this should be brought up on murder charges. What is it going to take for the people of fullerton california to stop this?
What?
Demand to see this video tape, you have the right and you control who is elected into office. Will it be your son or loved one next.
I’ve been watching this case very closely ever since I heard about it, and I am completely outraged and disgusted by what happened. Those cops MURDERED Kelley Thomas, and yes they must be charged and prosecuted for murder. I saw the video that someone recorded at the bus station, and hearing him scream for his dad while the cops were beating him to death absolutely broke my heart. I’ve also seen the picture of him in the hospital, and now I wish I hadn’t. That is the most horrific thing I’ve ever seen. It literally made me sick, and I had trouble sleeping after seeing it. I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to get that image out of my mind. No human being could ever say that was justified, in any circumstance. Those cops meant to kill him.

An anonymous informant from the Fullerton Police Department who called a radio station (KFI 640) said a camera in the parking lot recorded a clear video of the entire thing, from beginning to end, and there was actually a live feed of it into the police station. A dispatcher saw it while it was happening and they zoomed in, and apparently even they were shocked. The informant said that one of the officers (whose name is Jay Cicinelli) is the main culprit and is seen beating Kelley on the head with the back of a tazer while he was already on the ground and was not moving. Another cop tried to handcuff Kelley, but he had to back off because of the blood spraying from Kelley’s head! The informant himself said that it looked like murder to him.

Kelley Thomas’ dad is a retired Sheriff. He said what happened was the cops murdered him out of revenge. The cops even have a name for it, "Contempt of Cop." The father has intimate knowledge of this since he himself was a cop at one time.

This is not an isolated incident. I have read about many other incidents of excessive force and abuse from the Fullerton Police Department. The entire police department has gone rogue, and it should be disbanned, period. They should ALL be fired – the officers, administrators, the chief, everyone. It should be taken over by the Sheriff’s or an outside state or federal agency.

By the way, the names of the cops who murdered Kelley Thomas have been circulated all over the internet. Here they are:

Jay Cicinelli
Kenton Hampton
Manny Ramos
Joe Wolfe
James Blatney

They MUST be charged with murder. The Orange County District Attorney and the FBI are investigating. The public is furious and this could explode at any moment. I heard on the news last night that cops who were named have been personally getting death threats and some of them have even moved into hotel rooms. I say GOOD! They should be afraid. I don’t want anything to happen to their families, but they themselves deserve whatever happens to them. If those cops aren’t charged with murder, the public is going to snap and there is a very real danger of vigilante justice. They just might be safer in jail.

He was homeless and mentally challenged. I wouldn’t let my loved one who is mentally challenged and homeless to live in such conditions. I would sue them and help press charges.

Fullerton, California Police dept beat a homeless person to death. Will you let them get away with it? Speak?

August 30th, 2011 1 comment

If your son or loved one was beaten to death by 5 or 6 Fullerton police officers what would you do?
In Fullerton California, you saw our police officers beating a man to death. This mayor and police chief?
The mayor should be replaced, the police chief should be fired and the police officers who did this should be brought up on murder charges. What is it going to take for the people of fullerton california to stop this?
What?
Demand to see this video tape, you have the right and you control who is elected into office. Will it be your son or loved one next.
I’ve been watching this case very closely ever since I heard about it, and I am completely outraged and disgusted by what happened. Those cops MURDERED Kelley Thomas, and yes they must be charged and prosecuted for murder. I saw the video that someone recorded at the bus station, and hearing him scream for his dad while the cops were beating him to death absolutely broke my heart. I’ve also seen the picture of him in the hospital, and now I wish I hadn’t. That is the most horrific thing I’ve ever seen. It literally made me sick, and I had trouble sleeping after seeing it. I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to get that image out of my mind. No human being could ever say that was justified, in any circumstance. Those cops meant to kill him.

An anonymous informant from the Fullerton Police Department who called a radio station (KFI 640) said a camera in the parking lot recorded a clear video of the entire thing, from beginning to end, and there was actually a live feed of it into the police station. A dispatcher saw it while it was happening and they zoomed in, and apparently even they were shocked. The informant said that one of the officers (whose name is Jay Cicinelli) is the main culprit and is seen beating Kelley on the head with the back of a tazer while he was already on the ground and was not moving. Another cop tried to handcuff Kelley, but he had to back off because of the blood spraying from Kelley’s head! The informant himself said that it looked like murder to him.

Kelley Thomas’ dad is a retired Sheriff. He said what happened was the cops murdered him out of revenge. The cops even have a name for it, "Contempt of Cop." The father has intimate knowledge of this since he himself was a cop at one time.

This is not an isolated incident. I have read about many other incidents of excessive force and abuse from the Fullerton Police Department. The entire police department has gone rogue, and it should be disbanned, period. They should ALL be fired – the officers, administrators, the chief, everyone. It should be taken over by the Sheriff’s or an outside state or federal agency.

By the way, the names of the cops who murdered Kelley Thomas have been circulated all over the internet. Here they are:

Jay Cicinelli
Kenton Hampton
Manny Ramos
Joe Wolfe
James Blatney

They MUST be charged with murder. The Orange County District Attorney and the FBI are investigating. The public is furious and this could explode at any moment. I heard on the news last night that cops who were named have been personally getting death threats and some of them have even moved into hotel rooms. I say GOOD! They should be afraid. I don’t want anything to happen to their families, but they themselves deserve whatever happens to them. If those cops aren’t charged with murder, the public is going to snap and there is a very real danger of vigilante justice. They just might be safer in jail.

Unfortunately, due to how retarded and biased the legal system is I don’t ever imagine them being imprisoned.

Question about Pardons in Pennsylvania?

June 3rd, 2011 1 comment

I want to begin the process of obtaining a pardon for crimes I was convicted of from an accident back in 2002. Basically I went to 2 different pardon attorneys and recieved very different information. I assume this is because until I pay a retainer they are not going to spend anytime looking at my case. I want some other oppinions.

I was charged with Homicide by vehicle and reckless endangerment for an accident in which I was unable to stop for a red traffic signal and collided with another vehicle in which the other motorist was killed. Back then i was young and nieve in thinking that my attorney would actually help me. Instead he forced me to plead guilty to these crimes. At face value, everyone comes to conclusions thinking I must have done something wrong otherwise I wouldn’t have been charged this way. I say BS, there was no extenuating circumstance that I commited with gross negligence. Now I believe, at most and by talking to other officers, and reading about law that I should have been charged with Carless Driving with Accidental Death. I did nothing to warrant criminal action in that accident.

So talking with one attorney who barely had any facts and contacted the pardon board, said they would not grant a pardon for something like this. She said people need to know about it. She also said the only way I would have a chance is if I could prove I was wronfully charged. The other attorney with little information said I should wait until 15 years pass and then file for a pardon based on the fact that I have trouble obtaining jobs. He said accusing them of excessive charges would not go in my favor and that it is water under the bridge.

These people are contradicting eachother and I am confused. I feel like I have to say I was somehow wrongfully charged, however I am afraid I will get denied like the second attorney said.

Please, someoene who knows something about law give me some advice. I am desperate to have this criminal record removed. I am not a criminal and don’t believe I should be looked at as a criminal.

Thanks for any help.

The second attorney is pretty much right on. The fact that you plead guilty and the facts are not in dispute will make things considerably more difficult.

Your allegation that you were "forced" to plead guilty by your attorney does not hold water. Don’t go there.

The reason people conclude that you "must" have done something wrong to get the charges you did is because that’s how it works. The state "must" prove that you’ve done what the law describes for that charge in order to be convicted. The judge would not allow you to plead guilty to a charge either if it didn’t appear that you actually did what the charges say you did. You can’t plead guilty to bank robbery if there’s no evidence that a bank was actually robbed, and you can’t plead guilty to vehicular homicide if you were simply in a bad accident.