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So… another legal(s) question. I NEED to get a lawyer but of course no ones around until Monday and I will worry myself to death until then. My ex calls me tonight. This is all about the issue a few months ago where my son asked to be adopted… So my ex tells me tonight that I will be getting served with papers hahahah…

When I ask what for he tells me that there are several things pending with the state att. 1) fraud. his child support is auto deduct from his check. In the past his company has over paid me and when I took steps to give it back I was told that all I had to do was agree to allow them to take "X" amount out of each payment in the future to cover it and that’s the best way to resolve this… that is what I have been doing. The last few weeks they have been double paying me. I called them and as per the agreement they told me that if his company sends it in with my name that they have to give it to me and if it is a over payment then they will just keep taking "X" amount until it is covered. Fine not a problem… he states that my case worker (at my request) has forged papers saying that he is in arrears and that they have auth the state to take double payments until this is caught up… I have not been to court / talked to judge / filed ANY sort of papers about child support. I am clue less but needless to say PER HIM I have a fraud charge coming.

2)He then tells me that he has hired a PI and this person has been following me for the last 8 weeks… they know every breathe that I take (If this is true then I hope this person was bored to tears!) States that he now knows everything about me… my employment record, 9 years of bank statements. Both of my kids school records (my daughter is not even his…) ect…Because of this, this has helped the state prove that there is cause to file neglect charges on me and take my kids… now maybe i am stupid but wouldn’t DCF or some other agency have to look into this. Visit me, visit my home ect? I have NEVER been visited my DCF or had cause to have them visit me.

3) my husband in under a PTI. This is for theft and his first offense ever. He was adv that as long as he behaves / shows up for his monthly check ins / pays the fines / does not get in any trouble that there are no other restrictions… he can come and go… drink even within reason and leave the county as needed… we went to NC back in Feb… My ex caused me and my husband to fight. It was bad and my ex called the cops. He is telling me that with one phone call he can have him arrested for this issue… the cops that responded at the time of issue ran his name… checked all his info and released him from the scene. How the hell can he cause my husband to be arrested for a issue that happened out of state when the responding cops did not see fit to?

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4) he says that the states has me for insurance fraud… Both of my kids are on Florida Kid care. have been for years. My ex now states that he can prove that he has had insurance on my son for the last 9 years and I just failed to use it… This is not something that I was ever advised of. In fact he told my mother that when we divorced the judge told him he had to pay for it…not give me the info… It’s hear say but….

1) Hmm.. Try looking at that from his perspective. How would you like it if a big chunk of your check was being taken out and you knew it wasn’t supposed to be? And then the response was "we’ll just take out less later. Good luck with your bills for THIS month!" I’d be pissed too. And so would you – don’t deny it. It sounds like a big misunderstanding, but you should really try to get this fixed as soon as possible. He may have a case here.

2) Creepy, and probably BS if you haven’t heard from any officials. And not to his benefit if it’s true and hes just waiting to report you. If he knows that his child is being neglected, and he’s letting it continue for personal reasons, then he’s neglecting the child too.

3) Yeah…kinda bad for you’re case there. When you say "fight" do you mean like fist fight, or screaming fight? Because that’s kind of important. He probably can’t get your husband arrested for that, but it’s something you need to maintain an awareness of. Also, if he was out of state, and his case worker doesn’t know about the incident, and if it was a violation of 1 of his conditions, then your ex may have a point… Tread softly.

4) Fraud in an intentional crime. You can’t defraud someone if you don’t know an alternative exists.

5) What’s the story about your kid asking to be adopted? Adopted by who? Is he asking to live with his father, or just with some random couple? That kind of makes me wonder about that whole neglect thing and if that isn’t just a story. How old is the kid, and why does he want to be adopted? That could be a major playing card for your ex.

I don’t mean to make you panic, but if your ex has a decent lawyer, you need one too.

So… another legal(s) question. I NEED to get a lawyer but of course no ones around until Monday and I will worry myself to death until then. My ex calls me tonight. This is all about the issue a few months ago where my son asked to be adopted… So my ex tells me tonight that I will be getting served with papers hahahah…

When I ask what for he tells me that there are several things pending with the state att. 1) fraud. his child support is auto deduct from his check. In the past his company has over paid me and when I took steps to give it back I was told that all I had to do was agree to allow them to take "X" amount out of each payment in the future to cover it and that’s the best way to resolve this… that is what I have been doing. The last few weeks they have been double paying me. I called them and as per the agreement they told me that if his company sends it in with my name that they have to give it to me and if it is a over payment then they will just keep taking "X" amount until it is covered. Fine not a problem… he states that my case worker (at my request) has forged papers saying that he is in arrears and that they have auth the state to take double payments until this is caught up… I have not been to court / talked to judge / filed ANY sort of papers about child support. I am clue less but needless to say PER the ex I have a fraud charge coming.

2)He then tells me that he has hired a PI and this person has been following me for the last 8 weeks… they know every breathe that I take (If this is true then I hope this person was bored to tears!) States that he now knows everything about me… my employment record, 9 years of bank statements. Both of my kids school records (my daughter is not even his…) ect…Because of this, this has helped the state prove that there is cause to file neglect charges on me and take my kids… now maybe i am stupid but wouldn’t DCF or some other agency have to look into this. Visit me, visit my home ect? I have NEVER been visited my DCF or had cause to have them visit me.

3) my husband in under a PTI. This is for theft and his first offense ever. He was adv that as long as he behaves / shows up for his monthly check ins / pays the fines / does not get in any trouble that there are no other restrictions… he can come and go… drink even within reason and leave the county as needed… we went to NC back in Feb… My ex caused me and my husband to fight. It was bad and my ex called the cops. He is telling me that with one phone call he can have him arrested for this issue… the cops that responded at the time of issue ran his name… checked all his info and released him from the scene. How the hell can he cause my husband to be arrested for a issue that happened out of state when the responding cops did not see fit to?

and last I promise)
4) he says that the states has me for insurance fraud… Both of my kids are on Florida Kid care. have been for years. My ex now states that he can prove that he has had insurance on my son for the last 9 years and I just failed to use it… This is not something that I was ever advised of. In fact he told my mother that when we divorced the judge told him he had to pay for it…not give me the info… It’s hear say but….

Ok first of all.. calm down… him saying things, and these things being true could be two different things.. so until u actually get served dont read to much into it.. he could be blowing smoke just to freak you out.. and if thats the case well , its working..

The child support will straighten itself out.. not a big deal a judge will figure it out and they will just let him pay less for however long until its caught up .. 50 a month or whatever until its fair again.. (although if he’s making more money now then he was when c/s was issued could back fire on him if your lawyer (if he actually is having u served) counters with a modification that could make his c/s increase which would wash it out if not make him owe u even more.)

LMAO@ the case worker upon your request forged documents lol wow you have alot of power.. bet u didnt know that lol.. so much so that u could get a state worker, to risk their job to forge doc for you lol.. he’s full of crap , he’s grasping at straws.

PI.. wow your x must be really rich if he can afford a PI for 8 weeks.. and he’s complaining about a few weeks of extra child support yet he can afford a PI for 8 weeks.. tell him to show u proof.. lol and im pretty sure that if they tapped into your bank records for the last 9 years , thats not public knowledge and im pretty sure he or the pi could get in trouble for that so again i think he’s full of crap..

If he’s not on your daughters list of people of contact ( listed as father etc) then you can sue the school for giving out any information on your child that isnt his.. he has a right to the records on his son unless u have court papers stating otherwise but your daughter is another story .. and typically the schools check before giving out any information on a child.. they will check your license to make sure your on the contact list.. As far as the neglect.. you know if you neglect your children or not.. do u feed them, bathe them, put a roof over their head, are u making sure they are provided for and go to school.. if so he has nothing.. and DFS would laugh in his face.. btw you said he’s out of state.. what did he do drive from his state just to go to the kids schools to get a copy of their records??? lol..

LOL your x is an ego maniac he cant call the cops on a situation that happened awhile back that was already handled.. he’s full of himself he’s trying to intimidate you and scare you.. tell him to bring it! because he’s full of crap , id even be willing to bet that if not 100% atleast 95% of what you’ve put here that he’s said is b.s. and he’s just pissed and lying out his butt to try and scare u.

Tell him to prove it when it comes to the insurance fraud.. can he prove he sent u a scaned copy via email, or a sign reciept through snail mail that he gave it to u, etc because if he cant prove that he gave it to u, then it cant be proven that you had it.. now if at the last judgement it is recorded that they gave him a deduction in c/s because he had medical benefits on the children and you continued to use Kid care then possibly you could get in trouble.. but if at the time there was no proof of insurance for the kids then i wouldnt worry about it.. and tell him your still waiting on a card because he has to give u one in order to use it.. he cant "NOT GIVE U THE INFO" lol let him tell that to a judge lol.. better yet.. email him about the insurance see if he’s stupid enough to put that in an email and show that to a judge lol…

Dont let this guy get to u.. id be willing to bet that he’s full of crap.. Dont worry until theres something to worry about and if you dont have papers in hand.. then theres nothing to worry about.. no need to get a lawyer until your served because i think he’s blowing smoke.. and even if he’s not, your lawyer cant do anything until you get served anyways to actually read what he’s suing you for.. so stop getting stressed out over this stupidity.. He has nothing.. based on what you put here.. and most of the things u said, sound far fetched…. so dont let him rattle you.. just say "COOL cant wait to see the papers" and get off the phone.. stop letting him bait u into a conversation..

March 7, 2011 Update. Police: Jorge + Carmen Barahona’s Beating Death of Daughter ‘Subhuman’; Investigators Cite Constant Torture of Twin Adopted Children. WPTVnews http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifq7-sWSZyw
Jorge Barahona, 53, is accused of punching his daughter to death on Feb 11 following a lengthy torture session in which the girl was kept bound at the hands and feet and left in a bathtub. Carmen Barahona, 60, is also charged with first degree murder. The 10-year-old twins were subjected to months of abuse culminating in a torture session that ended with the girl’s death just 1day after state child welfare authorities visited the home and found no reason to intervene. “On Feb. 11, 2011 in the presence of Victor, Jorge Barahona removed Nubia from the bathtub while her feet and hands were still bound and took her to [the couple’s] bedroom. Co-defendant [Jorge Barahona] reportedly punched and beat Nubia about her body while she screamed and cried until she was dead,” according to documents. Police describe a house of horrors where the children were “repeatedly hit, punched, beaten with multiple objects about their bodies and bound and left for days on end, locked inside the only bathroom in the family home…” http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_c_palm_beach_county/jorge-and-carmen-barahona-both-facing-murder-charges
and http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-jorge-carmen-barahona-beat-death-adopted-daughter/story?id=13077739

Note: This is exactly like all dead baby CPS trials I have attended +/or researched. They reek of coverup, snuff, + 3rd parties being protected. It is what it is. When these people come to the door (unregulated, unmonitored sociopaths who answer to NO ONE and who are attracted to children for money) know that your child is in danger. This agency is a pedophile + sociopath’s dream. Complete isolation from parents or anyone that cares. They become Nobody’s child. Throwaways – vulnerable, PERFECT VICTIMS. Couple that with complete protection for all acts no matter how heinous. Who benefits? Certainly not children.

Barahona case deserves full disclosure. DCF has moved quickly to investigate what happened and to satisfy the public cry for information. No doubt that media coverage of the torture inflicted on the children has helped push the agenda. The Miami Herald has filed a public-records lawsuit seeking key records that new DCF Secretary David Wilkins is declining to provide. Wrong move. If ever there was a case that called for full-out transparency, this is it. http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/28/2090662/barahona-case-deserves-full-disclosure.html

Carmen Barahona’s Daughter Speaks Out About Family Tragedy http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/02/24/26941/

Carmen Barahona Charged w First Degree Murder, 7 Counts Aggravated Child Abuse, 7 Counts Child Neglect. 60 YO Carmen Barahona reportedly went voluntarily to Miami-Dade police headquarters for questioning and was booked into jail this afternoon.
Jorge Barahona, Carmen’s husband, sits in the Palm Beach County jail charged w attempted murder for Victor’s injuries. He also faces first degree murder charges in Miami.
10YO Victor was able to answer questions from investigators, now that he’s been released from the hospital; his answers may provide clues to what happened to Nubia. Victor was released from Jackson Memorial’s burn unit last week, and is said to be recovering nicely in a therapeutic foster home, though he will need continuing medical care and counseling.
Miami-Dade police and prosecutors assumed control of the death investigation after Victor, suggested to detectives that Nubia’s injuries were inflicted inside the family’s West Miami-Dade home.
Detectives have searched the home several times, recently hauling away a bathtub. The Barahona’s 6YO granddaughter reported to a therapist that the twins were being bound hand and foot and made to spend hours upon hours inside the bathtub of the family’s home. On Feb 10, the therapist called in the tip to a DCF abuse hotline – 4 days before Nubia’s corpse was found. The state child welfare agency has drawn intense scrutiny.
DCF has released a host of agency records detailing the twins’ abuse. Nubia was petrified of her adoptive mother, who, she told school workers, would beat her feet with a sandal. Nubia also was afraid her mother would learn she was hoarding food in a book bag because she was hungry.
Carmen Barahona filed for divorce against her husband, her lawyer claims she was a victim of domestic violence for much of her marriage, and should not be held responsible for what occurred inside the home. She has asked for custody of her 3 surviving adoptive children who are in foster homes.
Victor may be headed to Texas where a paternal aunt + uncle have sought custody of him since 2004.

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