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Mormons: If Jesus Christ appeared in the Americas wouldn’t it have been the second coming?

March 26th, 2010 26 comments

Mormons declare that Jesus Christ came to the Americas around 32 C.E. amongst other claims that were completely appalling. The Book of Mormon states that it is comparable to the Bible, yet Joseph Smith also states that the Book of Mormon itself is the most correct scripture in the world…

1) Again, Jesus Christ appeared to the Native Americans around 32 C.E. which was after his crucifixion, death, and resurrection according to Christian belief. Now, if Jesus Christ told his disciples that the next time he would appear to the world again would be Judgment Day then why would he go to the Americas and pretty much do almost exactly what he had done in the New Testament? Sounds like forgery, seeing as the Native Americans also have no record of Jesus’ existence prior to the Spanish Invasion.

2) Mormons also claim that the Native Americans were once Jews who had sailed to around Central America, who were the Nephites. The Lamanites were descendants of Lehi whom God had punished by turning their skins red (or blackened their skins) because of their wickedness, these are supposedly the Native Americans we know today.

Short story of the feud between these two, the Lamanites wiped out the Nephites save for one, Moroni who had hidden the golden plates (common myth – they were made of different metals) to which Joseph Smith Jr. had translated using seer stones had identified the language written on the plates as "reformed-Egyptian" (false writing, never existed).

Since the study of DNA, scientists tested the genes of the Native Americans to see if they had ancestors, and they did, they were the North-Eastern Asians who had crossed from modern day Russia to Alaska using the Bering Strait. A land bridge that was at the time above sea level. That concludes future arguments for that.

So if the Book of Mormon claims to be comparable to the Christian Bible, and Jesus appeared to the Americas it would have been the second coming.

Then…why are we still here??
Why is everyone assuming I didn’t write this on my own? I sound the same as much as I do in all my other Q&A’s, what’s the deal?
Miss Stevie II, nice! XP I was also thinking, that First and Last could mean many things: First and Last son of God for example. My thought 😛
When in Revelation it says not to add, change, or take away anything from the book it’s talking about Revelation itself. The Christian Bible wasn’t put together until way after Revelation was written. It’s just simply stating Revelation on it’s own, not the whole Christian Bible.
Servant of Jesus Christ, satin is a type of cloth. I have a very low tolerance when it comes to spelling. I doubt SATAN has an influence in the Book of Mormon, and the King James Version isn’t the "only correct text of Christianity". It’s just the one you were brought up with therefore, it seems more iconic because anything else you hear or see almost sounds alien.

To those who had their answers with low ratings I deeply apologize for the negligence people have brought on you, especially by those of the Mormon faith.

Another thing to the Mormons claiming the BoM as historical here’s something to consider: If Jesus came to the Native Americans, why isn’t he in their mythology? Why was he not mentioned in ANY of their teachings?

Jesus appeared to Paul, why not add that to the list…

Mormons, with John and 3 Nephite Apostles never tasting death, why did the priesthood need to be restored?

December 19th, 2009 6 comments

If the below texts are true, then how did the priesthood leave the earth?

THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 7
Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Oliver Cowdery, at Harmony, Pennsylvania, April 1829, when they inquired through the Urim and Thummim as to whether John, the beloved disciple, tarried in the flesh or had died. The revelation is a translated version of the record made on parchment by John and hidden up by himself. HC 1: 35–36.
1–3, John the Beloved shall live until the Lord comes; 4–8, Peter, James, and John hold gospel keys.
1 And the Lord said unto me: John, my beloved, what desirest thou? For if you shall ask what you will, it shall be granted unto you.
2 And I said unto him: Lord, give unto me power over death, that I may live and bring souls unto thee.
3 And the Lord said unto me: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, because thou desirest this thou shalt tarry until I come in my glory, and shalt prophesy before nations, kindreds, tongues and people.
4 And for this cause the Lord said unto Peter: If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? For he desired of me that he might bring souls unto me, but thou desiredst that thou mightest speedily come unto me in my kingdom. (D&C 7:1-4)

THIRD NEPHI
THE BOOK OF NEPHI
THE SON OF NEPHI, WHO WAS THE SON OF HELAMAN
CHAPTER 28
Nine of the Twelve desire and are promised an inheritance in Christ’s kingdom when they die—The Three Nephites desire and are given power over death so as to remain on the earth until Jesus comes again—They are translated and see things not lawful to utter, and they are now ministering among men. Between A.D. 34 and 35
1 And it came to pass when Jesus had said these words, he spake unto his disciples, one by one, saying unto them: What is it that ye desire of me, after that I am gone to the Father?
2 And they all spake, save it were three, saying: We desire that after we have lived unto the age of man, that our ministry, wherein thou hast called us, may have an end, that we may speedily come unto thee in thy kingdom.
3 And he said unto them: Blessed are ye because ye desired this thing of me; therefore, after that ye are seventy and two years old ye shall come unto me in my kingdom; and with me ye shall find crest.
4 And when he had spoken unto them, he turned himself unto the three, and said unto them: What will ye that I should do unto you, when I am gone unto the Father?
5 And they sorrowed in their hearts, for they durst not speak unto him the thing which they desired.
6 And he said unto them: Behold, I aknow your thoughts, and ye have desired the thing which John, my beloved, who was with me in my ministry, before that I was lifted up by the Jews, desired of me.
7 Therefore, more blessed are ye, for ye shall never taste of death; but ye shall live to behold all the doings of the Father unto the children of men, even until all things shall be fulfilled according to the will of the Father, when I shall come in my glory with the powers of heaven.
8 And ye shall never endure the pains of death; but when I shall come in my glory ye shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye from mortality to immortality; and then shall ye be blessed in the kingdom of my Father. (3 Nephi 28:1-8)

Also, I am wondering why there are no reports of these 4 still being alive, but thats another question.

It didn’t need to be, but as Josephs story grew, something had to be done, thus his convenient "revelations".

What was the maximum amount of wives that a LDS man could have?

December 11th, 2009 13 comments

The reason I would like to know is because I believe that in Islam you get a hundred virgins upon death and I was wondering if the Mormons have surpassed that record. Below you will find a link with some of the statistics.

The first seven presidents of the Latter Day Saints committed bigamy. These Mormon men had several wives and the sixth cousin of the founder who was the second President of the Church and who happens to have a Mormon college named for him in Utah had 51 wives to himself. He allegedly had relations with the wives of his cousin and founding President, Joseph Smith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_Church_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29

1 – Since the 1890’s.