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how to search death records for the state of new york?

May 16th, 2010 1 comment


New York City Death Index
1891 to 1897 Manhattan
1862 to 1897 Manhattan and Brooklyn
1898 to 1948 All Boroughs
If you have ever tried to use the New York City death index for the early years, you will appreciate this latest database. If you look at the microfilm for these early years you know that you have to look at every month, every year and every borough.

Now the volunteers of the Genealogy Federation of Long Island have put these records in a very searchable database that will enable you to search with just a push of the button. Phase 1 of this effort covered the period 1891 – 1907. The second phase added the years 1908 through 1936 and will eventually include the indexes up to 1948. http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm
New York Death Records
Enter a first and/or last name to search New York death records. This website was created to provide genealogists with access to the New York death records from a single place. Additional information on how to obtain New York death certificates is available below.
http://www.death-records.net/newyork/death-records.htm

You can search some of the indexes on Ancestry.com and you can also search the indexes at many New York Public libraries.

Possible clue found on great-grandfather: How can I gather more information on this possible person?

April 11th, 2010 3 comments

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchId=112849134813955540000;surname=Madigan;birthPlaceId=1;birthPlace=United%20States;givenName=John;searchType=standard;birthYear=1880;p=recordResults

Do you think this could be my great-grandfather? My grandfather Thomas Madigan was born on February 24, 1919 in Brooklyn, NY. He was the tenth of ten children, so it’s possible his father could have been 39 years old when having him. His wife (my grandmother) was also born in 1919 in Brooklyn, NY. She was the seventh of seven children, as her father was was born in 1880. On this link, it says John Madigan (the name of my great-grandfather), was born in May 1880, so it’s in the same time frame. The key though is that it says in the 1900 U.S. Census that he was residing in Brooklyn (Kings). This would have been two years after Brooklyn was consolidated into New York City.

I know for certain that my grandfather’s parents were born in the United States, although I’m unsure of where. It’s possible it could be in New York, but it’s possible it may not be. I’m unsure of where his grandparents were born, but I know he was of Irish descent. His grandparents may have been Irish immigrants. In this link, it says John Madigan’s parents were born in Ireland. On this link, it says that John Madigan was born in Boston, but I don’t know if that means in Massachusetts. My grandmother told me that John Madigan died at 69 years old, which she remembered, because my grandfather (Thomas Madigan) ironically also died at 69. I’ll ask my grandmother if she knows when he was born (if it was May 1880). Or if she knows what year he died (I can track 69 years before that). When it says Boston, I don’t know if that means in Massachusetts, because it doesn’t say so. There is a Boston in the state of New York.

On this site, and on Ancestry.com, this is the only John Madigan I’ve been able to find that resided in Brooklyn, Kings, New York, in the 1900 Census. This is also the only John Madigan I’ve found that has resided in Brooklyn, that was born around 1880. There were some in Manhattan that could have matched too, but this was the only one I found in Brooklyn. If there’s any help anyone could provide, I appreciate it. What I’m looking for is more information on this exact John Madigan. Like who his parents or siblings may have been. I’m also seeing if there’s a death record that may be on a John Madigan in 1949-1950 in Brooklyn, New York. I know there was a Census picture document to go along with it, but I was having trouble making out the writing on it. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Also, I’ve found a marriage record on a site to a Margaret Finley (or Findley) on July 24, 1898 in Manhattan, New York. Margaret Finley was his wife. It’s possible he could have gotten married at 18 years old, although I don’t know there.
It’s the third one on the page.
On the Family Search site, if it doesn’t work when you click on it, if you search John Madigan ”Birth/Christening” United States, you’ll see John Madigan come up third.

I’ll look in that New York Times article you posted. That sounds like it could be in the right neighborhood. If he died on Feb. 22, 1951, and he was born in May 1880, it wouldn’t have meant he would have died at 70 years old, which is only a year above the age my grandmother said he died at. If he died in May 3 1951, it’s possible he could have been 71 years old when he died, if this matches, but in the 1880 link it only says he was born in May. He probably would have been born after the 3rd in May, since there’s obviously 28 other days in May.
Hi Wendy. It’s coming along alright. Still gathering little bits of information. I’m not sure if they were married in 1898, but you’re right that if they were, it would contradict it. It’d possible there could have been another marriage of John Madigan and Margaret Finley, in a largely populated city, because they’re somewhat of common names. That marriage wasn’t in Brooklyn, NY though. It was in Manhattan, which leaves me skeptical. I’m unsure of what the exact date of the consolodation of Brooklyn into New York City was in 1898, but I’d imagine if it wasn’t apart of their city at the same, they may have not wanted to get married there. Plus, as I’ve mentioned, my grandfather grew up somewhat poor. Manhattan, for things like marriages, has historically tended to be expensive, so I don’t know if they would have been able to afford getting married there.
How exactly do I get down to that article on the New York Times page? I know I should go to the 1851-1980 tab? But I looked on page 28-29 and didn’t find it.
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=John+Madigan&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=02&day1=22&year1=1951&mon2=05&day2=03&year2=1951&submit.x=31&submit.y=12

I found it in the search engine in those dates you showed me. I’d imagine it’s possible it could be a duplicate article on the same person because both have the middle initial J. This could be the person I’m looking for though. It says it cost $3.95 to order it, which the price obviously isn’t a big deal, but I don’t have a credit card. But I’ll ask my brother.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoXtTPnNgILLLhSAqwufbpnsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20090305004625AApnQBo

I believe it was this answer you were referring too. This has John Madigan being born in May 1881, meaning that if he died in either February or May 1951, he would have been 69 years old when dying, as my grandmother indicated.
I’m not sure if that was the answer, as it was for the 1900 Census, but it could be correct. The only thing that could be off is that it says he lived in Queens, New York in 1900, but it’s possible that he may have moved to Brooklyn, when moving out, prior to my grandfather’s birth in 1919. My grandfather was from the Williamsburg neighborhood of Brooklyn, which actually isn’t that far from Queens or Manhattan. It had him listed as living at home in 1900, when he would have been either 18 or 19 years old.
Woop that was the wrong side lol I believe that is true on the Clark side though.
Yes, the information provided on that link is correct, as all the names of the children match up identically. It’s gradually added to appropriately in the 1920 and 1930 Censuses. The only confusion I had there was that it said this:

”John Madigan 34 Married 14 years Parents Ire English”

I looked up where ”Brooklyn Ward 14” was though, and it said East Williamsburg, which is likely where my great-grandfather lived in 1910, since my grandfather was born there in 1919.

Yet it said above:

”Father’s Birth Place: Ireland
Mother’s Birth Place: Ireland”
If he were born in 1876, it’d mean he probably would have died 1945-46.
Yeah, this could be it. The 4th one shown shows Margaret Madigan dying on April 23, 1922, at 44 years old.
http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeathresults.asp?kind=exact&Esurname=Madigan&Efirst=Margaret&StartYear=&EndYear=1922&County=Kings&B1=Submit

was wondering how you were coming along, Tom…
I pulled up the John Madigan in 1900, born May 1880. This John is single, and living with his widowed father. No wife. If John and Margaret were married in 1898, this contradicts it.
An 1898 marriage to Margaret is just about right. Meaning, they were married 21 yrs in 1919.. and like many persons in that day.. the standard is a child every other year.
By the way.. I love that site. Experience helps to read the stuff. Look at the top, and you can save it as a jpeg to your computer. Also.. look to the side of the "save file" thingie, and there is a slider bar which allows you to zoom on the image. The drawback is not having 1910, 1920, 1930 so you can check all three.
You also are hitting a certain time frame that is real tricky. I call it the 1890 "hump", where the 1890 is gone to a fire. Children born in 1880 or so, are often married by 1900, which means that 20 yr gap will leave them out of any census with the parents. The exception, if they do NOT marry by 1900, or..sometimes you luck out, and the parent now lives with the children.
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Tom.. go back to the 1910 census summary that tukmyhamster sent you, a few days ago.
It gives John’s age 34 (born about 1876); married 14 yrs (about 1896) and check closely on the ages of the kids.
1880 is not the right guy.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090228005522AAzRM2R
there is a discrepancy on John’s age between the two census.. so there is a range to be looking at.
ONE of these (full copy) would include the month/year of birth,
one claims father born Ireland, mother born England..

tom, your email is not open to send things after you may have stopped reading.
http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeathSearch.asp
run Margaret Madigan through this with Kings as location, and I think I find her death date in 1922.

Some help needed on new clues to ancestry ; Does Family Crest allow you to access 1841 Scotland Census?

April 5th, 2010 3 comments

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-834926459&pid=-834926459&tid=9210729&pg=0

On this link, the page I’m looking for help on is the third link (1880 United States Federal Census Record). It says he was born in ”about 1873”, which sounds right, because on the 1930 Census, it says my grandfather (Thomas Madigan’s) father was 57 years old. It says his father’s name was Patrick. Does it say who his mother was? I know it says John Madigan was born in the state of New York, but does it say where specifically? Don’t worry about the 4th link. I already have the information from the second link on this link. If you’d like, you could check this page, to see if there’s any leads. On the 1st link, this may show where he was born. The year of death is probably off though. The 1910 Census, taken in April 15 1910, recorded John Madigan as 34 years ago, so it’s possible he was born in 1876 or 1877.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-706941509&pid=-706941509&tid=9210729&pg=0

If the first link is correct, than it’s possible the 1st link on this site is too. If John Madigan was born in 1873, it’s possible that his father, Patrick, was born before 1841, to be taking in the Scotland Census Record in 1841. This says he was born in Ireland, so I’m unsure of why he may have lived in Lanarkshire, Scotland at the time. I’m not sure what information this link will give, but what ever there is, whether it’s his parents, siblings or immigration record, it’s helpful. I’m not sure what the 2nd and 3rd links say, but there could be information there too.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/HintList.aspx?ret=-709380172&pid=-709380172&tid=9210729&pg=0

On this link, I’m looking to obtain information from the 3rd link. I previous found information on her in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 Censuses, but there could be other information, such as what part of New York she may have been born in, that might be listed on this link. Or there may be useful information on her parents that weren’t listed in later Censuses.
My grandmother told me the name was Finley. It could be Findley though. I didn’t ask her how it was spelled, but I will next time I speak to her, if she knows.
My maternal grandfather’s mother’s maiden name is Finley (Or Findley). My maternal grandmother’s mother’s maiden name is Castino. On her father’s side, I’m not sure what paternal grandmother’s maiden name is, but I’ll look at the clues you’ve shown.

Did you know that you can access a transcript of the 1880 census for free at www.familysearch.org? Have a look 🙂

I’ll see if I can find anything else useful.
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I don’t think that 1880 family with father Patrick is right.
If the 1910 census is right John should be married by 1900 but I found John (whose father is Patrick) still living at home in 1900.

John P Madigan
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 13, Kings, New York
Age: 24
Birth Date: Jan 1876
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Birthplace: Ireland
Mother’s Name: Mary
Mother’s Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single

Mary Madigan 50
Mary F Madigan 28
Terence F Madigan 24
John P Madigan 24

(Patrick had died but siblings match)

I’ll try and find the right John.

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You said Margaret’s maiden name is Finley? Is that what your grandma told you? Have you seen this record from familysearch.org?

John Madigan Pedigree
Male Family

Parents:
Father: Daniel
Mother: Mary Molaney

Marriages:
Spouse: Margaret Findley OR Finley Family
Marriage:
24 JUL 1898 Manhattan, New York, New York

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Don’t get too sidetracked by Ancestry’s hints, they come up with all these matches to try and get you to subscribe.

What are the charges for death threats in New York?

December 19th, 2009 4 comments

My friend’s girlfriend cheated on him. He found out the other man’s number, called him and threatened to kill him. (no chance he will actually do it) The other guy recorded the phone call and reported it to the police. My friend was told to turn himself in to the police today. However he got a lawyer and now has to report to the police on Sunday. My question is how much trouble can he get into for making a threatening phone call? He has a clean record, no police history whatsoever. This all took place in New York. Since there was more than one phone call exchanged between them we are giving the call logs to the lawyer.

There are very stiff laws on terroristic threatening in the state of New York. Your friend was stupid to leave something on a machine like that. He will get something, but it will probably be plead down to probation and anger management training or something. This type of behavior usually escalates, so he really should get help, and get it with the intent to learn something.