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Is anyone still interested in facts?

February 20th, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments

Interesting article…..

ST. PAUL, Minn. – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She’s been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America’s energy supply … She’s responsible for 20 percent of the nation’s energy supply. I’m entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain’s phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she’s no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

MCCAIN: "She’s the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska’s national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s el
Patrick…..I didn’t realize the AP worked for Obama…..thanks for the info.

Huckabee was being humorous, but you Obama sheep know nothing about that.

Still, not one lie you can point out. This article is also full of misleading crap, must be an Obama talking points article. I guess you all were e-mailed it this morning and told to cut and paste it to your blogs.

Bunch of sheep.

NObama 08 or ever

  1. WesD2
    February 21st, 2010 at 05:14 | #1

    nice copy and paste job of a liberal article…now when are you going to address Obama’s lies?
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  2. NOT as smart as a 5th grader
    February 21st, 2010 at 05:44 | #2

    I read the same article. It’s amazing that Republicans can just say whatever they want, and their party members believe it without checking into the facts, first.
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  3. Bob M
    February 21st, 2010 at 06:21 | #3

    The republican party is depending on the voters not knowing and not caring about facts and issues.
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  4. truth seeker
    February 21st, 2010 at 06:59 | #4

    I wished they truly cared about the facts, but they don’t. I have received dozens of chain e-mails about Obama that are filled with lies. Most don’t even contain one truth.
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  5. doctor
    February 21st, 2010 at 07:04 | #5

    no !! truth ever comes out of the mouth of a REPUBLICAN

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  6. Sahara
    February 21st, 2010 at 07:22 | #6

    I read that too. I’ve seen some of it before elsewhere. I wish Palin and others would just tell the truth. It is what it is. Why are they trying to hide it? Wouldn’t it be easier to stick to your principles? This is just spin, what they say, Palin included. It has little basis in facts. You see this with resumes. It’s all over the place. It’s a main reason I’ve been disenchanted with business. It’s not real. There is so much falseness. There are so many lies. We are supposed to just go along and believe it. I think if we do then a piece of our soul dies.
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  7. Patrick R
    February 21st, 2010 at 07:38 | #7

    Huckabee was being humorous, but you Obama sheep know nothing about that.

    Still, not one lie you can point out. This article is also full of misleading crap, must be an Obama talking points article. I guess you all were e-mailed it this morning and told to cut and paste it to your blogs.

    Bunch of sheep.

    NObama 08 or ever

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  8. ?PerSepHonE?
    February 21st, 2010 at 08:01 | #8

    I guess not. They will just come up with an excuse with the lie and make themselves believe the lie is true.
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  9. Tootie Grey
    February 21st, 2010 at 08:19 | #9

    Politicians of all parties manipulate facts in order to distort the truth. Truth is irrelevant-votes and winning are more important.
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  10. kathleen O
    February 21st, 2010 at 08:32 | #10

    Thank you.
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  11. Tate
    February 21st, 2010 at 09:15 | #11

    People don’t like to read. Sadly, I think Obama is really the instrument of change and is a great hope for America.
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  12. Greg B
    February 21st, 2010 at 10:05 | #12

    If there was fairness in the world they would be held accountable for all there lies but they won’t be. Just like they haven’t been held accountable for there lies for the last 8 years.
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  13. whgilmore
    February 21st, 2010 at 10:40 | #13

    Your facts were meaningful, I copied them to check them out further.

    It is saddening that people who claim to stand for moral values resort to immoral acts in order to convey their candidates. If they will lie and cast out unsubstantiated innuendos, then they are capable of almost anything. I am frankly tired of their attempts to instill fear into the minds of Americans. They are the elite with their own agenda for America.
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  14. Automation Wizard
    February 21st, 2010 at 10:47 | #14

    Yes, I am interested in the facts. That was a lot to read for the minuscule amount of information in it that actually supports your position. We could publish hundreds or thousands of pages on all the candidates picking apart every word they say. In the end there would only be 20 or 30 pages that sum up the significant details.

    Did McCain say that she went to Afghanistan and commanded guard units? Of course he didn’t. This is just an attempt to claim that he lied when it is clear he did not.

    For those talking about those Obama emails with wrong information in them, I did check the facts, and I did not forward the articles when I found them to be lacking. There is enough garbage floating across the web of that nature on both sides. I see posts from people all the time who believe these things just because of who sent them. They often also come with a fabricated name at the bottom to simulate some sort of credibility.
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  15. margaret h
    February 21st, 2010 at 11:15 | #15

    Good God, can anyone be that ignorant about the responsibilities of the National Guard and how a Governor of a State coordinates their use.
    Only someone TRYING to disparage Gov Palin’s record would use that example.

    Did you watch the coverage of Gustav and how Gov. Jindal used his Guard troops in coordination with local, Parish and State troops, local volunteers and those who had arrived from around the country, hospitals and EMS, fire departments, and other first responders, etc.?
    They evacuated 1.9 million people in about 24 hours.
    The difference was NIGHT and DAY over the previous Democratic governor because he had a PLAN that was coordinated with the Departments of Homeland Security (did you notice Chertoff down there?) and the Defense (General Honore)

    Every governor of every State since 9/11 has had responsibility for developing such plans to coordinate such plans for emergencies.
    Alaska has vulnerabilites to attacks on oilfields, pipelines, military bases, etc, as well as volcanos, and earthquakes.

    Every other one of the so-called "facts" in this acticle is partisan carping.
    The non-partisan and well-respected factcheck.org tore into Obama’s speech but Democrats and Obama supporters don’t want to hear it.
    They think that the Easter Bunny will deliver the money for all the programs that Obama hasn’t given the details for.
    Somehow they don’t believe that their taxes are going to increase or that their jobs will disappear.

    Keep burying your head in the arugula.
    Hear what you want to hear.
    The truth is there.
    Ignore it at your peril.
    People like McCain, Palin and Jindal are the ones who keep America safe.
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  16. delphi
    February 21st, 2010 at 11:39 | #16

    The responses you received from the Republicans here was what I expected. Deny and deflect. Their typical M.O. With these facts they also don’t realize how she dropped those high moral Fundamentalist values the minute she opened her mouth.
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