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The AP has posted a story intended to mislead the voters into believing that Obama was born in Hawaii. The Story only says that they have his birth records. It is illegal for anyone to tell us what these records say. The story does Not say that Obama was born in Hawaii, and it does not say that the Certification of Live Birth that Obama has posted on the Fight the smears site or the one pictured on Factcheck is Genuine. It does not say that Obama is qualified under our Constitution to be President, and it does not say that all of the lawsuits against Obama are in error.

“State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawai’i.”
(Note this is an exact quote from the Honolulu Advertiser. Where is Hawai’i?)

HONOLULU (AP) — State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawai’i.

Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the US.

Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama’s citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04

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  1. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #1

    Map, according to …
    Map, according to US immigration law, ” A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth.” Hawaii’s statehood is another issue. However, regardless of where Obama was born, the fact remains that his father was not a US citizen, which made Obama subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign nation, the moment he was born, so he cannot be considered a natural born US citizen.

  2. map425
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #2

    1st of all hawaii …
    1st of all hawaii is not a leagal state of america, it is american law as well as hawaiian law on both constitutions it states you cannot make a country outside of your boarder a state without a treaty. there is no treaty, this is the sad truth. please researh kue

  3. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #3

    Yes, the spelling …
    Yes, the spelling error is there, LOL, it took me a 1/2 hour to find it. I also came across an election form that Obama himself signed and sent to AZ in 2007, stating that he fulfilled the Constitution’s requirements, so there is no way he can now claim he didn’t know.

  4. DD826
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #4

    Bigone,
    I hadn’t …

    Bigone,
    I hadn’t noticed the spelling. I will have to check that out. To funny. I wonder how many libs were involved and they still had spelling difficulties.
    Polosi must have gotten nervous with the first doc qualfying Obama.
    The second doc., with no constitutional claim is the one they sent around to the 50 states.
    These may be the docs. that puts Polosi in jail.

  5. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #5

    Yes, I heard a …
    Yes, I heard a rumor about that months ago, and now those documents prove it is true. They seem to have been prepared by the same person on the same day, because there a common word that was misspelled on both documents. One says Obama is Constitutionally eligible, and the other doesn’t.

  6. DD826
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #6

    By Bob Unruh
    © …

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    A commentator at Canada Free Press says he has obtained copies of two documents apparently prepared by Democrats to certify Barack Obama as their nominee for president in 2008 that suggest House Speaker Nancy Pelosi knew there was an unresolved issue with his eligibility under the U.S. Constitution.

  7. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #7

    Maybe not. He is …
    Maybe not. He is trying to misdirect the people to from the real issue. Even if he was born in Hawaii, he is NOT a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, it means that he was born in the United States, and had no allegiance to any other country. Obama’s father was a British Subject, and by British law, so was his son. Obama is not a natural born citizen, as required by the Constitution, and should have never been allowed on the ballot.

  8. BLCalifornia
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #8

    > There is …
    > There is something WRONG here.
    >If he really was born in Hawaii he would have released a certified copy of the birth certificate a long time ago.

  9. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #9

    That is possible, …
    That is possible, but he also admits to being a citizen of the UK/Kenya from birth. That would mean that he is not a natural born citizen of the USA.

  10. imuahawaii808
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #10

    So long Obama …
    So long Obama proves Hawaii isn’t a state and territory of the U.S. However I really do believe Obama was born in Hawaii.

  11. Savethefells
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #11

    Isn’t this getting …
    Isn’t this getting insulting to our intelligence? They can keep ‘secret’ all they want.. JUST NAME the ‘information’ on there.. IS OBAMA GOING TO KEEP THE INFORMATION FROM HIS WIFE MICHELLE AND CHILDREN ? Where was the actual Birthplace? Who was the Doctor ? Surely this is not asking too much. Obama says he wants to ‘aid’ the American people. One good start is ‘quieting’ these very concerned questions. We are not asking for the actual paper, we are asking for the Doctor’s name and/or hospital.

  12. voter08
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #12

    So. We have elected …
    So. We have elected a foreign usurper. According to peoplespassions(.org), 24 potential Electoral College electors are filing action in court demanding Obama to release proof.

  13. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:31 | #13

    Yes, I have heard …
    Yes, I have heard that. That in it self would prove that Maya’s Birth Certificate was ill gotten. When Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, she moved to Jakarta and became a citizen of Indonesia. At that point she lost her US citizenship. So she would have lied about being a US citizen when she registered Maya’s birth. There was no dual citizenship agreement between the USA and Indonesia until 2006.

  14. voter08
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #14

    Obama’s half-sister …
    Obama’s half-sister also has a registered birth certificate in Hawaii even though she was born in Indonesia. The AP has Obama’s Indonesian school record that shows he was Indonesian citizen. Did AP mention about Obama’s Indonesian citizenship in the article?

  15. voter08
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #15

    The DNC defends …
    The DNC defends Obama who refuse to produce his birth certificate to the court. We, the people, must know if Obama is a legitimate presidential candidate. We are patriots, voters, and campaign donors. Doesn’t the Democratic party represent us at all? Or is the Democratic party only interested in protecting the party and its nominee?

  16. Dallouez
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #16

    I don’t understand …
    I don’t understand Barak has presneted “copies” of his Birth Cert why would he balk at showing us the real article. Hasn’t someone supeoned his Birth cert? Since the court didn’t dismiss the case WTF! Well looks like someone should sue the State of Hawaii governor and all parties for conspiricy to defraud the US!

  17. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #17

    Yes, it just …
    Yes, it just doesn’t make much sense. Maybe Ann Dunham adopted him? Andy Martin thinks he’s the son of Frank Marshall Davis. Michelle has already said that his parents weren’t married. It just makes no sense. Even if he were born in Hawaii, there is still the issue of his citizenship in Kenya and Indonesia. I know one of our Congressmen went to Indonesia, trying to buy up all the records of Obama a while ago. So Indonesia looks like the real problem for him, if the Courts would listen.

  18. SeekerNLife
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #18

    This just stinks …
    This just stinks more and more by the day.
    Even IF…and I am saying IF….Obama really was born in Hawaii.
    Then why did he feel the need to post a FAKE Birth Certificate on his website?
    What is on the real one, the one that these Hawaiian officials are saying is real, what is on that one that Obama doesn’t want the American People to see?

    Even if McCain wins by a good margin, I hope that Berg presses on with his Case.
    We need to know what Obama is hiding.

  19. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #19

    We need to do all …
    We need to do all we can to get the vote out for McCain/Palin. Rain or shine, get to the polls and vote. Do not listen to the polls. Do not slack off if you hear McCain is ahead, and do not loose hope, if you hear Obama is ahead. The Media is in Obama’s pocket and they want him to win.

  20. Belle19700
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #20

    I am voting for …
    I am voting for McCain, even though he could keel over at 5 PM tonight, and his running mate, boobookitty woman. His choice of Palin showed really bad judgement in my opinion. But choice do we have? Obama is scaring me to death. At the very least, he will be very sympathetic to muslims, and that is death for America. Truth-I do not believe that the people in charge of this country, will let Obama take over. Take that anyway you want to take it. I believe it.

  21. LuvWorkingAtHome
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #21

    I appreciate that …
    I appreciate that this is being investigated because Obama is a fraud, but I don’t think anything is going to be done about it.

    If Barack Hussein Obama wins, who is going to do what it takes to remove him? And how would a successor be chosen? Biden?

    Hopefully he will not be elected.

  22. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #22

    It is clear that he …
    It is clear that he has something to hide. We can not depend on the Courts to help. We must vote against him. Please see my video ” Our Constitution is under Attack” and be sure to read the material in the info box.

  23. Belle19700
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #23

    Good grief! Who is …
    Good grief! Who is this man called Barack Obama? He needs to disclose his records from college also. This is looking worse, and worse. They should have done this 6 months ago, before he’s so close to being elected. If he is disqualified, does that mean McCain is automatically elected? I’m so confused.

  24. Bigone5555J
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #24

    He could have been …
    He could have been born overseas and had his birth recorded in Hawaii, when his mother returned there. It is also possible that he was born in Hawaii, but he refuses to show anyone his birth records. Why? It is also very likely that he was adopted by his stepfather when he moved to Jakarta in 1967. He admits that he had citizenship in Kenya, and there has also been a birth certificate found for a Barack Hussein Muhammud Obama found in Canada.

  25. Belle19700
    February 16th, 2010 at 10:32 | #25

    If Hawaii has the …
    If Hawaii has the original birth records, then he was born there, right? If he was born somewhere else, then Hawaii would not have his birth certificate. If this is wrong, tell me why please.

  26. ann1
    February 16th, 2010 at 12:14 | #26

    Obama was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows. Yes, the Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate, and the officials in Hawaii (members of a Republican governor’s administration) have said twice that the facts on the Certification are confirmed by the facts on the original document in the files.

    A Natural Born Citizen is simply a citizen who has not been naturalized. Naturalized citizens are not eligible. Natural Born Citizens are eligible.

    The definition of Natural Born Citizen is:

    ““Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition.”

    All US-born citizens are Natural Born Citizens. That is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

    Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

    “Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

    Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

    “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004

    The Wall Street Journal put it this way:

    “Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.”

  27. ann1
    February 16th, 2010 at 12:27 | #27

    Re: “but he refuses to show anyone his birth records. ”
    You are wrong. Obama has shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it that he was born in Hawaii in 1961 were twice confirmed by the officials in Hawaii, who are members of a Republican governor’s administration.

    The Wall Street Journal said: “Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.”

  28. ann1
    February 16th, 2010 at 12:31 | #28

    Re: “A commentator at Canada Free Press says he has obtained copies of two documents apparently prepared by Democrats to certify Barack Obama as their nominee for president in 2008 that suggest House Speaker Nancy Pelosi knew there was an unresolved issue with his eligibility under the U.S. Constitution.”

    Total baloney. The facts are that both parties have used different responses for different states to the questions about eligibility for years. Both parties do this, and this was not the only election in which it was done. It is simply unnecessary and confusing to give details to states that do not ask for details. However, when states do ask for details, the parties naturally provide them

  29. ann1
    February 16th, 2010 at 13:28 | #29

    Obama has posted the official birth certificate of Hawaii. Yes, the short-form Certification of Live Birth is now the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is the only birth certificate that Hawaii sends out (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html).

    NO, you cannot get a birth certificate–either long-form or short-form–in Hawaii that says on it \" born in Hawaii\" unless there is proof of birth in Hawaii. Obama\’s posted birth certificate says on it clearly that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. And the two officials in Hawaii, who are members of a Republican governor\’s administration, have said twice that the facts on the certification are confirmed by the facts on the original document.

    Then why don\’t they release the document you may ask? Possibly because they consider that it is not necessary, having confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii twice. In any case, they are under a Republican governor, and ultimately it is her decision. Obama cannot release the original. He does not have it. He only has what Hawaii sent him, and that was the short-form certification.

    The Certification is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department and the branches of the US military. The Wall Street Journal commented:

    \"Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.\"

    By the way, there is absolutely no proof or even a credible report that Obama was born anywhere else than Hawaii. His Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii. Listen to the complete tape, until after the question “Whereabouts was he born?” http://www.obamacrimes.info/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-

    The National Review commented: \"The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”

  30. ann1
    February 16th, 2010 at 16:22 | #30

    Obama has posted the official birth certificate of Hawaii, which is the only one that Hawaii issues. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate. The facts on Obama’s Certification of Live Birth, which is now the official birth certificate and is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department, were twice confirmed by the officials in Hawaii, who are members of a Republican governor’s administration.

  31. ann1
    February 17th, 2010 at 15:56 | #31

    Obama has posted and shown to both FactCheck and Politifact the official birth certificate of Hawaii (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html).

    That is the birth certificate Hawaii send to Obama, and the birth certificate that it sends to everyone. In Obama’s case the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials of the Department of Health of Hawaii, who are members of a Republican governor’s administration.

  32. ann1
    February 18th, 2010 at 01:57 | #32

    Obama has already shown his birth certificate, the official birth certificate of Hawaii. Yes, the Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is the only birth certificate that Hawaii sends out. It no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate. (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html).

    It is not possible to get a birth certificate from Hawaii that says \"born in Hawaii\" on it (as Obama\’s does) unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department and the branches of the US military. AND, in Obama\’s case, the facts on the birth certificate–that he was born in Hawaii in 1961–were twice confirmed by the officials in Hawaii, who are members of a Republican governor\’s administration.

  33. ann1
    February 18th, 2010 at 10:54 | #33

    Obama has already shown his birth certificate, the official birth certificate of Hawaii. Yes, the Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is the only birth certificate that Hawaii sends out. It no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate. (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html).

    It is not possible to get a birth certificate from Hawaii that says “born in Hawaii” on it (as Obama’s does) unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department and the branches of the US military. AND, in Obama’s case, the facts on the birth certificate–that he was born in Hawaii in 1961–were twice confirmed by the officials in Hawaii, who are members of a Republican governor’s administration.

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