Why does President Obama have a Connecticut Social Security Number?
This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.
The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.
Obama’s maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.
This is what we know about Ludwig:
In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.
On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.
Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.
Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:
Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008
Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA
Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC
Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always
Height 5?5?, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None
Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.
http://www.ellisisland.org/sign/inde…T=LL§ion=3
First Name: Jean P.
Last Name: Ludwig
Ethnicity: France
Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Leviathan
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008
U.S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Jean Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 February 1890
Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
Death Date: June 1981
Estimated Age at Death: 91
That wonderful information is courtesy of Orly Taitz, the much aligned lawyer/dentist/real estate agent.
And it proves exactly – nothing.
do you really have that much time on your hands?
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Oh really u seen it?…..didnt think so
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Maybe its a security thing to protect him????? Ever think of that???? If people like you can find this out, what about people that would want to harm him, imagine what they might be able to do with his details!
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Because your tinfoil hat needs re-adjusting, that’s why.
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LOL, you sure do have a lot of time on your hands.
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Why has this not been taken to court?
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That wonderful information is courtesy of Orly Taitz, the much aligned lawyer/dentist/real estate agent.
And it proves exactly – nothing.
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Sheesh
why do I have a NY ssn when I was born in florida?
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Oh for Gods sake
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2010/02/obamas-social-security-number/
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I went to Tijuana Mexico years ago with a couple of friends. After a night of drinking, we went back to the boarder attempting to cross back into the US. My friend (the whitest guy I ever met) was stopped at the boarder and held in a room for over an hour. The reason they held him was because they said he had 3 SSN’s.
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What a load of crock. If someone is in the SS Death Index, their number is no longer active and can’t be used by anyone. Ludwig IS in the Death index, his SSN is 045-26-8722.
Obama has been using his SSN for 30 years, it appears on his tax records. The IRS doesn’t have a problem with his number. Neither did the Selective Service or any employer or college he went to.
This line of fantasy REALLY shows how idiotic the hard-core birthers are.
@Felice: Read what I wrote, please. Ludwig’s number wasn’t reassigned, it’s in the Death Index which means it’s no longer being used. Obama’s number (which the poster listed) is different from Ludwig’s and has been in Obama’s continuous use since the 70’s. There’s no connection in their numbers. Obama isn’t using Ludwig’s, Ludwig didn’t use Obama’s.
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Feral, that’s just stupid. There isn’t a single politician that couldn’t claim that.
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Really amusing to see all the obama lovers respond this way, they refuse to believe that a non-US citizen is in the white house, if only due to his fathers parentage(kenyan born obama sr) glad to see you posted this~
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Obama is an ILLEGAL ALIEN, not an American at all. He never registered for SS number because he is not a citizen of the US. He became an Indonesian citizen when he immigrated there as a child, and never applied for repatriation to the US. Over his work history he has bused almost 2 dozen fake or stolen SS numbers. He should be deported along with other illegal aliens.
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doesn’t really clarify if obama was using a number already issued or the guy who was using it before was using it illegally, or if there was a scriveners error at some point by someone (change one digit and theoretically you have a different person’s issued number). as to where the card was issued, before ’72 it was just which office you showed up to apply at, after ’72 it was processed by mail and your return address zip code determined the number prefix. it really doesn’t say anything about where you lived.
that said, everything about obama is weird. absolutely NOTHING about the guy is normal, and he hires armies or lawyers to fight release of virtually everything every other candidate releases, so if you aren’t an obama bum kisser you can’t help but smell a rat. remember dan rather getting fired for releasing fake info about bush’s military records, only to have bush release them himself? remember them pulling out a 30 year old incident when bush had been pulled over for drunk driving right before the election? remember the army of investigators that descended on wasilla after palin announced? remember the news trucks and investigators outside that plumber’s house 24/7 after he simply went up to obama, who was in his neighborhood, and asked him a question? it’s like if anyone asks a simple question of obama who was running for president of the united states, or asks a question of obama after he became the president of the united states, in order to just find out who he is, that person asking the question gets ATTACKED like nobody in history. why?!?! why can’t we ask what foreign passports obama travleved under as an adult? why is that wrong? why is that bad? why aren’t we allowed to question things or to know, especially to the extent previous presidents have been scrutinized? why won’t obama just release his actual long form birth certificate, the one we all have or can get easily, and why won’t obama just release the foreign passports he traveled under, and why won’t he just release his school records, when every other presidential candidate releases all this stuff voluntarily? what is it about obama that everything about him is soooooo weird and everything is a big secret? in his own book he blabs about his parents recruiting frank marshal davis being recruited as a mentor for him… this is a nationally famous, published, and self proclaimed marxist. he writes proudly about all this stuff in his books. what we DO know is scary as hell and any request for documentation about his life is attacked by lawyers in court. WTH?
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To PennyLee who said: "What a load of crock. If someone is in the SS Death Index, their number is no longer active and can’t be used by anyone. Ludwig IS in the Death index, his SSN is 045-26-8722."
False. The Social Security numbers are NOT re-used!
Q20: Are Social Security numbers reused after a person dies?
A: No. We do not reassign a Social Security number (SSN) after the number holder’s death. Even though we have issued over 453 million SSNs so far, and we assign about 5 and one-half million new numbers a year, the current numbering system will provide us with enough new numbers for several generations into the future with no changes in the numbering system.
http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html
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I have a definite idea how this nonsense started. Private (and amateur) detectives used one of those subscription databases used for (among other things) skip tracers and people locators for a bunch of past addresses – and they used EVERY possible permutation of names, including his mother’s maiden name, her second husband’s name (spelled correctly and incorrectly), etc. – and came up with a bunch of bogus hits, some only for a last name. Some were supposedly the mother’s name – her first name was Stanley – except somewhere else on the record Stanley was identified as a male; this didn’t stop them or even tell them they were on the wrong track. Some of these records had all or part of an SSN – not necessarily the SSN of the person whose name popped up (e.g., the name of someone living in the house but the SSN of whoever signed the lease). WITHOUT ANY PROOF of what SSN the President had actually been using, they picked an SSN (or partial SSN) from one of these bogus hits, and have been treating it as if it were proven gospel ever since.
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I checked several of these websites that are touting birther propaganda. Some of them were so eager to show their "evidence" that they even showed how flimsy and careless their "investigative methods" were.
Read all the comments and the most sensible one is by “gadfly swatter”. Why is it so wrong to ask obvious questions about the hidden background of the commander-in-chief of America? There seems little dispute that the man has been using a SS# issued in Connecticut. Maybe this is an error….maybe not….but clearly this warrants in depth investigation to determine whether or not something more sinister is underway in terms of identity theft, especially given Obama’s connection to William Ayers and enemies of our state.
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/04/madelyn-dunham-connection-obamas-ct.html
Why in the name of God is it so wrong to try and vet this President of the U.S. when the red flags and efforts to hide his past are so stunningly obvious while past presidents have been excorciated by the MSM for the slightest hint of not coming clean about their background? Truly we are through the Looking Glass where right is wrong and wrong is right, truth is fiction and fiction truth. What incredible cowardice pervades modern America in the face of their almost perfect irresponsibility and historical failing.
How very tragic and sad, but I guess it is what it is.
This is all moot. I admire privatee citizens trying to do the job the press should bee doing – and would be doing if this president were a White Republican. But our press won’t investigate this – or if theey do they won’t report on their findings. And Obama has the means and ways to suppress evidence and manipulate the system and get away with this kind of thing, as he did the birth certificate…finally.
Twenty years from now, when America is still trying to fix itself from the disasterous Obama presidency – especialñly if he’s re-eleected – we’ll learn the truth about this charleton fraud.
The American people have been hoodwinked and scammed by the Michael Jordan of scam-artists. It’s our own fault. We deserve what we’re getting for raising two geenerations of idiots who would put such an obvious Socialist (if not Marxist) and serial liar in the WH. It’s our own damned fault.
B. Afraid:
The first words in the website you referred us to is “Crusading birther litigant…”
And you expect us to believe anything that follows from this Leftist Obama-Ass-Kissing rag of a website? Are you serious?