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Are these the same people?

I know that my great grandmother’s name was Kathryn Lescher and that lived in Ohio as a child. I found her in the 1910 census living with her mother whose name is listed as Mary King. I then proceeded to find a death record for a Mary Lescher who was also born in Germany, buried in Ohio and died in Michigan, which is where she was living towards the end of her life. On this death record, her father is listed as having the last name Stein. I then found a marriage record in 1902 for a Mary Stein and a Joseph Lescher in the same area of Ohio. Finally, I found a death record for a Joseph Lescher in 1907 and a marriage record for a Mrs. Mary Lescher and a John King in 1908. Given all of these records, does this all seem to fit together well enough to conclude that these are the same people and in fact my ancestors?
Sorry. John King was also in the home in 1910. I was able to find Mary in the 1900 census but she was living with her sister who she must have come to America with while her parents stayed back in Germany.
Also, her burial was in the same place as where she lived for a large portion of her life growing up.
And the 1910 census says she’s married twice to further back up the two different marriages. The only weird thing is that with the dates she would have married at about 17 years old to a man about 13-14 years older. On the other hand, John King is 13 years older than her as well, so I guess that makes it seem more believable.

Almost all of it is real clear that Mary was married 1st to Joseph, married 2nd as widow to John King, and thus her name is correct in the 1910 census.
My question might be what happened to John King? he wasn’t in the home in 1910? did she divorce him and resume using the prior Lescher name?
Whether or not the death record is your Mary is open to question, even with the last name of Stein. You would need to match up the dates to determine if it is close enough. WHERE is the Ohio burial? is it in the same location as she was raised?
I would still work to find Mary in the 1900 census, and define who the parents were. If they are buried in the same locality as the Mary whose death record you have.. it would be more evidence.

  1. ellisbnjob
    July 20th, 2011 at 22:34 | #1

    yes
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  2. GrayPict
    July 20th, 2011 at 22:43 | #2

    Without seeing the information you are referring to I would only be able to say it seems reasonable to assume. However, your Great Grandmothers death certificate should indicate who her parents were. Which would mean another piece of information to document her with.
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  3. Nothingusefullearnedinschool
    July 20th, 2011 at 22:49 | #3

    I would say that it is a definite maybe.

    There are too many names, unless you can account for the various names, I would say no. Especially with a marriage record in 1902 and another one in 1908…
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  4. wendy c
    July 20th, 2011 at 23:09 | #4

    Almost all of it is real clear that Mary was married 1st to Joseph, married 2nd as widow to John King, and thus her name is correct in the 1910 census.
    My question might be what happened to John King? he wasn’t in the home in 1910? did she divorce him and resume using the prior Lescher name?
    Whether or not the death record is your Mary is open to question, even with the last name of Stein. You would need to match up the dates to determine if it is close enough. WHERE is the Ohio burial? is it in the same location as she was raised?
    I would still work to find Mary in the 1900 census, and define who the parents were. If they are buried in the same locality as the Mary whose death record you have.. it would be more evidence.
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  5. Maxi
    July 20th, 2011 at 23:19 | #5

    Have you written out a timeline? Write down all the information you have, the record cite numbers, dates etc and it makes it very easy then to see what you are missing, see if there is any overlap, you know what records you need to find to prove something like this……just reading over what you have it seems to ‘fit’ but only you know if your information is from trusted records with cited reference…if not then that is what you need to look for………………….it is very easy to get carried away when researching, especially if others are researching the same line and have information which matches yours…but no one has cited referenced documents………….one line I am researching, my great great great grandfather I have found where he was born and have searched the parish records and ‘his name’ appears in those records giving a baptism date and parents…..and they are the only people in that village with that name who are having children at that time…..but I also found a burial date for someone of his name and the son of the parents I have for him………..no other baptism of another child of that name and I know he didn’t die until he was 82 years old…so the burial is not him…so is the baptism him or not..I don’t know as I can’t find any other records…………now if I look to others researching the same family, not one of them has that burial…they also have different parents for all the children ( but I know they are wrong) and there information is from collections, IGI, copying others trees.so you see it is important you view real records and check all of the records to cross reference to get the full picture.

    You seem to be making lots of assumptions such as "who she must have come to America with while her parents stayed back in Germany." this is easy to prove, you look on passenger ship lists and see if she did come to the US with her parents, her sister or someone else…then this becomes fact proved by records, not an assumption to fit what you want.
    Our ancestors don’t make it easy for us to find information sometimes and researching their life is not a clinical thing to do, emotions come into it and with emotion it sometimes clouds our logic…so it is important to be very organised, do the research which is logical
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