Posts Tagged ‘Birth Certificate’

Can’t find anything except for her children’s death records? Help?

November 9th, 2011 1 comment

Her name is Lillian Tyler, born June 15 1918 in Kings, New York. She married Albert Pacini. Had some kids, two of them died. Only records I found of her were in 1920 when she lived with a huge family (unable to find out which Tyler was her parent after extensive researching…no birth record). No residence record after the 1920 NY record. And the only other two that I found were with her and her husband’s name on it for a death certificate of her two kids in a 5 year period. My aunt Carol (lillian and albert’s daughter) said she left her sibling in 1945 because of her depression from losing two kids. I have been searching everywhere (especially…very helpful) but can not seem to find anything else on her. Why isn’t she documented? Why can’t I find a birth certificate, a marriage certificate, a residence after 1920, anything? I really want to be able to help my aunt find out who her mom was and if she is still alive or not or where she died. If anyone can give me some advice or help me out or explain to me why she seems to disappear after 1920, it would be greatly appreciated. She is such a mystery to everyone in my aunts family and we all want to find out what happened or a little bit more about her. I thought everyone had to participate in the census? Why can’t I find anything else on her?
Thank you for answering! I really need some help.

There’s lots of reasons why you may not find someone in an online resource ranging from they don’t have the helpful record, the name is indexed so poorly it’s not searchable, they moved and you’re looking in the wrong location, the information on the record is wrong, or there’s some fact you don’t know (i.e. she remarried or somehow got listed under a stepfather’s name). It’s likely she is documented, you just can’t find the documents so far. There are some cases where a person is undocumented. Sometimes by choice, sometimes by the cruelties of life (i.e. died a Jane Doe), and often because the documents have been destroyed (i.e. courthouse fires).

You may find it helpful to go ahead and order a birth (& maybe marriage) record direct from the appropriate agency:

I wouldn’t try to order a death record until you can be certain she has died and what name she may have died with (i.e. remarried). Find A Grave may be helpful. There seems to be a couple possibilities with a maiden name Tyler born in 1918. For this site, spelling counts so try multiple variations.

Does Obama have a Stolen Social Security Number?

September 29th, 2011 7 comments

An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama’s current SSN) in or about March 1977.
Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut .. Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents.
Obama never lived or worked in that state! Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None whatsoever!
Now comes the best part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life in Hawaii, where he died. Conveniently, Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals. The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig’s death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.
The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a U.S. citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro simply scoured the probate records until she found someone who died who was not receiving Social Security benefits, and selected Mr. Ludwigs Connecticut SSN for Obama.
Just wait until Trump gets past the birth certificate and onto the issue of Barry O’s use of a stolen SSN. You will see leftist heads exploding, because they will have no way of defending Obama. Although many Americans do not understand the meaning of the term "natural born" there are few who do not understand that if you are using someone else’s SSN it is a clear indication of fraud.

I find all of that quite odd myself. I believe there are several false names that come into play with the whole thing also.

Birth Certificate, Death Certificate?

September 29th, 2011 4 comments

I want to view someone’s birth and death certificates and records how do I do this, I would like to do it in person not online, where would I go and will they allow you to view them if this person died as a minor? Also can you make a copy of it? And would they even let me see them if I’m only 17? I want to see these because this person is important in my life and I never got to meet him because he died a week after I was born. This is in California, Sonoma County. Thank you such for your answers.

The Sonoma County Clerk-Recorder-Assessor’s office is the place to go, provided you are one of the legally authorized relationships to this person. Being a minor you may need a parent or other authorized person to go with you. The link gives the address, fees, authorized relationships and all pertinent details.

They will not allow you to look through the records to locate his, nor will you be looking at the original. You will need to order the copy and pay the copy fee, but this can be done in person at the office.

Marriage records in Michigan.?

August 15th, 2011 5 comments

So I located the marriage record on-line for my great grandparents,born in the mid 1800s.The information about their parents names and where they came from,wasn`t there.So, I need to either travel to the town where the record is,or send them $15.00 by mail.Will I get a copy of the actual record?I need brakes on my car and with gas prices so high,I thought I would write for it,but then I worry,I will get the wrong record,or the information I need won`t be there.Mich has not released all the death records and a person has to be dead for 150 years before you can obtain a birth certificate.Anyone that has been dead that long,likely was not even born here.The reason I couldn`t find it before,my great grandmother`s last name was misspelled on-line,but not on the actual record.I have gotten more information from family search,than my worthless subscription.
You were all very helpfull.Hard to pick a best answer.

Having read your other question, I’m going to answer parts of both in one place.

I have pretty good experience with Michigan marriage records. First, you need to know that there are different types of "marriage records". This is a generic term for anything that documents a marriage, whether it be a marriage license or certificate issued to the couple, a return book, record book, marriage bond, or register book. Each of these will have different information about the couple. In Michigan each county determines what records they keep and what information will be on them. Some counties have made frequent changes. If you get information from the record about the parents is hit and miss. In Michigan they often have place of residence, but usually do not have place of birth or places associated with the parents.

Since you are looking for a copy, I suspect you have not located the record online, but rather an index or transcription of the record. This source should give you the precise information you need to find the copy they indexed or transcribed from. If it was from Family Search you might be able to take the source code information to a Family History Center and request the microfilm. If it’s from a published genealogy book you can sometimes request an inter-library loan from your local branch library, request a photocopy of the page of interest, or check Google Books.

A few tips about ordering records from public agencies: they will not do research and they will not guess, no matter how logical or obvious. They will look for exactly what you ask them to look for. If the date range you ask for is 1 day off, if a name is spelled 1 letter off, or if your information gives them more than 1 possible record you may get a note back saying the record could not be found. This is why the indexes online are helpful. They *should* be exactly as they appear in the record. In both cases this requires that someone is able to read the handwritten record (i.e. Elmira and Elvira can get confused). When you send away to the agency they will either photocopy the information from their books, or they will transfer the information to a form and this form is considered a copy (although not always certified).

GenWebs do not provide records, they provide a place where people can post information and links to helpful resources. What the GenWeb itself provides is free, but not all of the resources they list will be.

How can I find out the truth?

June 16th, 2011 2 comments

My grandpa died two months before i was born and just recently i found out from my Uncle that my father lied about my grandpa’s death. My dad said Gramps died in Illinois but my uncle said he died in Alabama and said something about police records. Nobody will tell me anything and its killig me to not know. How can I find the information I need? Please help me… Im desperate.

Track down your family history to figure out who your grandfather is from your dad’s or uncle’s background they should share the same father. It shouldn’t be that hard to be who your grandfather is. Go over and fidn your father’s birth certificate usually parents name are written on the certificate just to tell that the person have parents.

IMPORTANT QUESTION!! Please answer seriously!!?

June 3rd, 2011 6 comments

Well, before I tell you guys anything I want everyone to know that I love my parents but they are emotionally abusive most of the time and threaten to physically abuse me when super angry and that I’m curious to find answers.

So I was looking at my birth certificate a few weeks ago. I was looking at it because I was curious to know whether I am my parents birth child. the reason why I think I am not my parents birth child is because we look nothing alike and theirs a lot of traits that I don’t have from them. My parents have big round eyes, high cheekbones, narrow noses, thin lips, thin straight hair, long ears, short eyebrows, short necks, and tan skin. I have small almond shaped eyes, don’t have high cheekbones, a long big nose with a slight bump, I have medium-thick lips, thick curly hair, small ears, long eyebrows, a long neck, and pale olive skin. The traits my parents have have been passed down from many many generations and everyone in my family has those traits except me.

Not only that but I’m allergic to apples and cherries and have IBS (irritable bowel syndrome, embarrassing, but thought it would help answer the question)

Well back to the birth certificate- So I was looking at it and I noticed a few things that seemed out of the ordinary and made me wonder.My birth certificate was filed a month after I was born, was signed by doctors 1 month after I was born, and doesn’t have my parents signature, but instead has their names typed in the spot that was supposed to be signed. The biggest fishy thing was that on the side of my birth certificate it says "death under one year of age, to see death certificate for this child please enter state file number" but I don’t have a state file number. Also my sister’s birth certificate has a birth number but mine doesn’t. I also have a bith confirmination which is like my birth certificate excpet it has no sigatures. And my birth certificate is actually a "certificate of live birth"

My parents don’t believe in adoption but I still think I was adopted or given away. The thing is that I am 13 years old and can’t ask for my birth records.

SO my question is:
-Am I adopted or given away at birth?
-Does all this seem normal?
-Is there a chance that I was adopted or given away at birth?

P.S: I know that adoption and being gioven away isn’t funny and at times could be hurtful. I just can’t deal with my parnets abuse anymore and cps did come to my house but I just lied so they can go away. I didn’t want my parents getting in trouble. I just thought that maybe if they weren’t my parents, then maybe there is hope of me getting out of the house and that maybe there is a possibilty of me having loving and caring parents out there somewhere in the world. So please answer seriously and no hurtful comments. I just want to know other people’s opinions.

I was born in Reno, Nevada by the way and it’s a state in the U.S for those of you who don’t know. but I’m currently living in NY.

And thanks in advance to all the people who read this long question and made time to answer my question. All of you peoples help is great and I’m thankful for any answers given =)
@ Nani Barr- I know that traits can be passed down from 100 years ago but these traits have ran through both sides of my family since the beginning of time. We’ve only been one nationality since the beginning of time and a mixed marriage isn’t a possibility meaning the traits I have isn’t in the family. But maybe your right.

well a certificate of live birth is usually paperwork filed at a hospital after childbirth and sent to the county clerk afterward for the acual birth certificate. sounds like what you found is the copy that the hospital sends home for the parent’s personal records. doesn’t mean that you’re adopted. as far as your looks go, genetics are tricky, and not every child looks exactly like their parents. even after hundreds of years of looking the same. the thing is, whether you are adopte or not, if your parents really are treating you badly, you cant keep covering for them. unless you do or say something, you aren’t ever going to have the loving family you want

How do I get birth/death certificate copies for a genealogy project?

April 11th, 2011 5 comments

I am trying to apply to a group, the Daughters of the Republic of Texas (I had family that fought in the TX war for independence, have been in TX since the 1700s, etc). I have the genealogy work done, but now I need to actually prove the validity of the family tree and my connection to either an original Texas settler or (this is easier) a person who is already a member of the group. To do this, I will need to get copies of birth certificates from people going from myself back a few generations. My problem is that I am not on very good terms with my father’s side of the family, and there’s no way I can get my grandfather’s records (he is still alive) which effectively stops that search pretty low on the family tree. How else can I go about getting any records?

In some circumstances you can order on line.

Texas began to record vital information in 1903 but a lot of people who were born at home or died at home did not get recorded.
This was pretty much the case until after WW II.

Rootsweb(freesite) has the complete Texas Bureau of Vital Statistic Death Index1903 -2000. Now, you can save a lot of money for those who died between 1903-1976 if you order a copy from Clayton Library, 5300 Caroline, Houston, Texas. They will only charge you $3 for a copy.

You might get birth certificates also but I doubt if you can do so all the way up to 1976. States are clamping down on birth certificates to just anyone due to identity theft. Ancestry.Com has the complete birth index from 1903-2000. Your public library might have a subscription to Ancestry.Com.

If your grandfather is 75 years of age or older, then you probably can get his birth certificate without any problems in Texas.

I might add that Anglo settlements did not come to Texas until the 1800s. Moses Austin asked Spanish authorities for a large tract of land that he would promote and sell to Anglo American pioneers in 1820.

A Spanish settlement from the Canary Island was at San Antonio in the early 1700s.

Understanding How Cook County Made Birth Certificates Digital

March 29th, 2011 No comments

Registering a child for a new school or sports team, changing last names after a marriage, applying for a passport all require original, certified copies of legal documents. Often, the headache that comes along with obtaining the necessary documents can turn the entire process into a nightmare.

In many cases, the request for documents needs to be made in person. Those employed during regular working hours are forced to dash to the county office on a long lunch break, or in some cases even take time off from their jobs. Arriving at the office, they’re then faced with forms that they would have preferred to fill out at their desk, but must now tackle hunched over with others seeking the same documents, often in a tiny and crowded room. In order to reduce fraud, which is estimated to involve real birth certificates 85% of the time, security surrounding vital documents has become far more rigorous, which means longer forms and more requirements.

Once the paperwork has been completed, it’s into another line, which could take any amount of time, before the request can be presented to a county worker at the vital records agency. Occasionally, the needed document is able to be quickly retrieved and handed over to the requesting party. More often, however, the person requesting the record is forced to wait, sometimes more than a day, until they’re able to pick up or receive the records in the mail.

The process can be exhausting, but it doesn’t have to be. Access to birth records can be greatly simplified when county’s use updated document management technology to improve their work flow. The entire process can be completed in about five minutes, with a happy customer leaving with birth certificate in hand.

The Cook County Clerk’s office, which services Chicago and some suburbs, is a great example of a vital records office that has streamlined and simplified the document request process. Cook County birth certificates and death certificates can be obtained at the county clerk’s office, and they typically service 500,000 customers annually. Customers can print a copy of a birth certificate (or other vital record document) request form from the Cook County Web site and fill it out at their leisure. Once they arrive at the office and present proper identification, a representative can immediately access the record from the Clerk’s automated system. Identification must prove that a customer is requesting a record only for themselves or their child. Approximately 80 percent of qualified customers have their desired paperwork in their hand within five minutes of being greeted.

In an effort to further improve their system, Cook County has installed technology that digitally stores actual images of all vital records, including birth certificates and death certificates. So, customers can receive certified copy of a digitized image of the original document. In many cases, it even has the father’s original signature. This step also serves to preserve the records more efficiently.
As more areas of the country begin to adopt the technology that Cook County currently uses to provide the public with birth and death certificates, the process of obtaining certified copies of vital records will continue to become easier.

Shakora Malik

are birth and death certificate’s public record in the state of Mississippi?

March 14th, 2011 2 comments

Can anyone get a copy of a birth/death certificate?

Yes and yes. Some states actually have websites you can get these from. Check the website for the Recorder for the county in which the birth/death occurred.

The Life and Death of Public Records

March 14th, 2011 3 comments

The Life and Death of Public Records
Sometimes it’s the small abuses scurrying below radar that reveal how profoundly the Bush administration has changed America in the name of national security. Buried within the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 is a regulation that bars most public access to birth and death certificates for 70 to 100 years. In much of the country, these records have long been invaluable tools for activists, lawyers and reporters to uncover patterns of illness and pollution that officials miss or ignore.


In These Times has obtained a draft of the proposed regulations now causing widespread concern among state officials. It reveals plans to create a vast database of vital records to be centralized in Washington and details measures that states must implement — and pay millions for — before next year’s scheduled implementation.


The draft lays out how some 60,000 already strapped town and county offices must keep the birth and death records under lock and key and report all document requests to Washington. Individuals who show up in person will still be able to obtain their own birth certificates and, in some cases, the birth and death records of an immediate relative, and “legitimate” research institutions may be able to access files. But reporters and activists won’t be allowed to fish through records, many family members looking for genetic clues will be out of luck, and people wanting to trace adoptions will dead-end. If you are homeless and need your own birth certificate, forget it: no address, no service.


Consider the public health implications. A few years back, a doctor in a tiny Vermont town noticed that two patients who lived on the same hill had ALS or Lou Gehrig’s disease. Hearing rumors of more cases of the relatively rare and always fatal disease, the doctor notified the health department. Citing lack of resources, it declined to investigate. The doc then told a reporter, who searched the death certificates filed in the town office only to find that ALS had already killed five of the town’s 1,300 residents. It was statistically possible, but unlikely, that this 10-times-higher-than-normal incidence was simply chance. Since no one knows what causes ALS, clusters like this one, once revealed, help epidemiologists assess risk factors, warn doctors to watch for symptoms,and alert neighbors and activists.


Activists in Colorado already know what it is like when states bar access to vital records. For years, they fought the Cotter Corp., claiming that its uranium mining operations were killing residents and workers. Unwilling to rely on the health department, which they claimed had a “cozy” relationship with the polluters, the activists tried to access death records, only to be told that it was illegal in this closed-records state. An editorial in Colorado’s Longmont Daily Times-Call lamented, “If there’s a situation that makes the case for why death certificates should be available to the public, it is th[is] Superfund area.”


Some of state officials around the country are questioning whether the new regulations themselves illegally tread on states’ rights. But the feds have been coy. Richard McCoy, public health statistic chief in Vermont, one of the nation’s 14 open-records states, says, “No state is mandated to meet the regs. However, if they don’t, then residents of that state will not be able to access any federal services, including social security and passports. States have no choice.”


But while the public loses access to records, the federal government gains a gargantuan national database easily cross-referenced in the name of national security. The feds’ claim that increased security will deter identity theft and terrorism is facile. Wholesale corporate data gathering is the major nexis of identity theft. As for terrorism, all the 9/11 perpetrators had valid identification.


Meanwhile, the quiet clampdown on vital records is part of a growing consolidation of information at the federal level. “That information will dovetail with the Real ID Act of 2005,” says Marc Rotenberg of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. “Real ID cards are the other shoe that is scheduled to drop in three years.” That act, signed into law last May, establishes national standards for state-issued driver’s licenses and ID cards, and centralizes the information into a database.


Aside from public health and privacy concerns, closing vital records incurs a steep intangible cost: It undermines community in places where that healthy ethos still survives. In small town America, the local clerk’s office is a sociable place where government wears the face of your neighbor. Each year, Vermont’s 246 towns distribute their vital statistics to all residents. “It’s the first place everybody goes in the Town Report,” says state archivist Gregory Sanford. “Who was born, who died, who got married, who had a baby and wasn’t married.”


This may not be the most dramatic danger to democracy, but it is one of the Bush administration’s many quiet, incremental assaults on the health of America’s body politic. And it may end up listed on the death certificate for open society.


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