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Legal question RE: Texas V. Henry "Hank" Skinner?

November 16th, 2011 2 comments

Ok, I have been following this case lately and basically this man was arrested in 1993 and brought up on three homicide charges in the deaths of his then-live-in girlfriend and her two adult-age sons. From day one, Skinner has shouted from the roof-tops that he is innocent, but he was convicted and received The Death Penalty. Originally, his death sentence was scheduled to be carried out on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 (so in just a couple of days from this posting.) However, there was a petition circulated on, and some former attorneys, judges, and politicians from Texas wrote letters to the present-day Governor of Texas asking they (at least temporarily) forego this execution while the fight to save this potentially innocent man’s life continues. Apparently, the prosecutor from the DA’s Office assigned to this case did NOT request DNA testing on every piece of evidence (s)he could have, which included a victim’s RAPE KIT for God’s Sake! Now, I won’t pretend to be a legal expert, or a cop or anything, but I’ve seen far too many episodes of Law & Order: SVU to know that’s one of the FIRST THINGS you take to the crime lab for DNA testing so you make sure you’re busting the right "perp." Now, for the last TEN YEARS OR MORE, Skinner and his attorney have been submitting official requests to the DA’s Office asking that they go through the evidence and whatever wasn’t DNA tested before or during the trial, be DNA tested now because it very well could prove Skinner’s oft-repeated claim of innocence is true. The DA’s Office keeps denying the requests, saying something to the effect that if they wanted EVERYTHING that could have been DNA tested to be DNA tested, they should have asked that it all be DNA tested either before the case went to trial, or at the latest during the trial, but after the trial is over and the defendant is sentenced is too late. Now, again, I’m no lawyer or judge, or legal expert – far from it, actually, but this SCREAMS of Prosecutorial Misconduct to me. To me, this is the equivalent of denial of a fair trial AND denial of Due Process of Law. IMO, they need to hold off on the execution until EVERYTHING is DNA tested, and while waiting, Skinner should be in Gen Pop, or even P.C. not Death Row. If he’s wrong about the DNA vindicating him, or knowingly, flat-out lied about it and he really was the murderer of these three, then don’t delay the execution any further – proceed IMMEDIATELY as soon as the DNA results are in, IMO. However, if he’s right and the DNA shows it wasn’t him, he’s been in prison far too long for an innocent man, so he would deserve to be released right then and there as soon as the DNA cleared him. So, am I right though? Does this sound like a case of Prosecutorial Misconduct? Does a DA/Prosecutor have the right to decide which evidence does or does NOT get DNA tested or which evidence they have that will/won’t be presented during a trial? Does a DA/Prosecutor have the right to tell a potentially innocent Prison Inmate asking for evidence DNA tests, "Sorry man you should have asked for these DNA tests before the trial."? I just want to smack the crap out of this Prosecuting Attorney – it sounds a lot like he cares more about his win/loss record than whether or not he’s got the correct "bad guy" in prison.
Susan S: Thanks. I agree. Someone needs to step in and b**ch smack the Prosecuting Attorney and Judge for letting this farce go on. There is NO harm in running the DNA tests even after the trial. If it proves him innocent, he goes home, if it proves him guilty, he’s dead in 3 days as planned. Just test the damn DNA! I would think it would be worth it to make sure they don’t bump off an innocent man. These people standing in the way of justice need to be dis-barred and jailed for being so stubborn and refusing to process all of the evidence!
@dudleysharp: you raise a few valid points and a compelling argument. I wonder though, if you’re right, why they wait now until about a week before his scheduled execution to go public on (supposedly falsely) claiming all of this and saying they’ve been practically BEGGING for this other evidence to be tested when apparently they asked for it NOT to be tested before the trial started? And why is it that the information I’m reading on this is saying that when the family asked for the rest of it to be tested after the trial the prosecution said no, making the prosecutor look bad, rather than saying the defendant asked for it not to be tested, making the defendant look more and more suspicious and more and more guilty? Something’s not adding up here. I wish I knew the truth – a potentially innocent man’s life is at stake.

Apparently the same local court where he was originally tried has turned down the latest request to test DNA. If he is executed this week (as scheduled) we will never know if Texas got the right person. I believe this is indefensible- and that even death penalty supporters would want to know for sure.

Does Obama have a Stolen Social Security Number?

September 29th, 2011 7 comments

An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama’s current SSN) in or about March 1977.
Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut .. Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents.
Obama never lived or worked in that state! Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None whatsoever!
Now comes the best part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life in Hawaii, where he died. Conveniently, Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals. The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig’s death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.
The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a U.S. citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro simply scoured the probate records until she found someone who died who was not receiving Social Security benefits, and selected Mr. Ludwigs Connecticut SSN for Obama.
Just wait until Trump gets past the birth certificate and onto the issue of Barry O’s use of a stolen SSN. You will see leftist heads exploding, because they will have no way of defending Obama. Although many Americans do not understand the meaning of the term "natural born" there are few who do not understand that if you are using someone else’s SSN it is a clear indication of fraud.

I find all of that quite odd myself. I believe there are several false names that come into play with the whole thing also.

Why was there such little flooding in New York City during the all time record rain the other day?

August 26th, 2011 2 comments

Normally, when you set an all-time record daily rainfall for any given city, massive flooding occures. Offically, about 8 inches of rain fell on Aug. 14th. However, I am looking online, and there are very little news stories on the houses flooded with feet of water, or deaths, which are normally assoicated with this type of rain. If you look at the all-time record rainfall for most cities in the U.S., it does not even approch 7 inches for the day. Wash DC, Philly, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Detroit, along with many more cities have never seen 7 inches of rain in one day. In fact, Central Park has just seen 3 days in the last 141 years with rainfall over 7 inches for a day.

I live in Philly and the reason I can think of is because the rain normally moves and doesn’t stay in one spot yet in south Jersey they had 10" of rain fall because of the rain training over the same area

just think if all this rain came during the colder months we would be in a blizzard

I can’t find my deceased friend’s obit b/c takes $. Name: Matthew Herzog (3-19-86 to 10-14-04) Houston, Texas.?

April 22nd, 2011 4 comments

He was a 6th generation Houstonian, and his original obituary is located at (or via the Houston Chronicle, which features mostly all of Houston’s deceased in their "Obituary" section, and the only problem I’m having accessing his obituary, is monetary-wise. They want me to put in my credit card number and charge me $2.95, to actually read my best friend’s obituary. I wasn’t able to make his funeral, because it was private, and none of his friends went (thanks to his sadistic parents) and I REFUSE to pay for something that ought to be FREE! Not to mention that if they charge my credit card the $2.95, it costs about that much to place a charge with the card anyway, so the total would be around $5.00 for reading an obituary of a dearly departed friend of mine, when it should be absolutely free and public (since it’s a public record) anyway. So, if anyone finds Matthew Mark Baker Herzog’s obituary, I would greatly appreciate it, and you would be putting 6 years worth of uncertainty behind me, and help me start to heal my inability to have some closure, seeing that I not only wasn’t allowed to view my friend being placed to rest at his funeral, but also never being able to read anything that was said about him in his final eulogy. He died in Houston, Texas on October 14th of 2004, he was 18 year old, and was killed by off-duty, uninformed police officers, whom he was involved in a lawsuit with, and they had been harassing him for years, ticketing him, etc.. until they finally got what they wanted, which was his death. They harassed him so badly, it started driving him crazy, making him extremely paranoid and emotionally unstable (which is exactly where I think they wanted him to be, mentally) so they could catch him in a snare (that they made) in order to cost him something as precious as his own life. And yes, they sure did, shoot him dead, after years of harassment, lawsuits, and cops following him everywhere he went (which was an everyday occurrence, and many of the times, I was with him, witnessing this crap taking place) to make his short life miserable, and they did that admirably.

So what’s your question?

Was it even worth writing all this for $2.95?

Looking for info Henry Hall Collin County,Tx?

April 14th, 2011 1 comment

Looking fo information on a the Hall Family lived in Mckinney,Texas name Henry Hall wife Lena Hall
had 2 daughters Voltra Hall(allen) died 1925 and Elegea Hall died 1929 cannot find any census records of the living in Collin County,Texas just death certificates for the 2 daughter..i know henry hall had brother named A.D Hall died in June 10, 1988 but i do not have access to census information..can anyone please help me.. i know henry hall died before the last daughter died because a.d hall signed her death certificate but when i do not know.
Heny Hall is actually the father of Voltra &Elegea he was deceased before Elegea died in 1929..A D Hall signed her death certificate.. A.D Hall married a lady by the name of Mary Scruggs she died in 1984 ….To my knowledge Henry Hall has lived in Allen,Texas or Mckinney,Tx (Fairvie,Tx)area….hard to find info on people before social security Henry supposedly born in 1860 and lena in 1870
A D Hall is Henry Hall brother.
help anyone

Could this be them?

1910 Census – Ellis County, Texas
Henry Hall – M – B – 49 – married 10 yrs – TX-UNK-UNK – Farm Laborer
Lena Hall – wife – F – B – 30 – mother of 6 kids, 5 now living – TX-TX-TX
A. D. Hall – son – M – B – 9 – TX-TX-TX
Otra(?) Hall – dau – F – B – 7 – TX-TX-TX
Nora Hall – dau – F – B – 4 – TX-TX-TX
Hubbard Hall – son – M – B – 3 – TX-TX-TX
Ezell Hall – dau – F – B – 11 mos – TX-TX-TX

1920 Census – Ellis County, TX
Henry Hall – M – B – 53 – widow – TX-LA-LA – Laborer, Farm
Ida Hall – dau – F – B – 18 – TX-TX-TX – Laborer, Farm
Votie Hall – dau – F – B – 17 – TX-TX-TX – Laborer, Farm
Nora Hall – dau – F – B – 15 – TX-TX-TX – Laborer, Farm
Evella Hall – dau – F – B – 9 – TX-TX-TX
Henry Hall – son – M – B – 5 – TX-TX-TX

(I bet the "Ida" is really "A.D.", and the census taker just heard it wrong and figured it was a girl).

Here’s A.D. Hall in 1930:

1930 Census – Collin County, TX
A. D. Hall – neg – 27 – widow – TX-TX-TX – Farmer, General Farm
Leoala(??) Hall – sister – neg – 18 – TX-TX-TX
Henry Hall – brother – neg – 16 – TX-TX-TX

The "Leoala" is very hard to read, and I don’t know who that could be if Voltra and Elegea have already died, and if Elegea is the same person as Ezell/Evella. Next door to A.D. is probably their sister Nora:

Jerry Anderson – neg – 42 – TX-TX-TX – Farmer, General Farm
Nora Anderson – wife – neg – 24 – TX-TX-TX

Koran Burnings Effect on a global scale.?

March 21st, 2011 10 comments

Firstly, I want to say this is NOT going to be a, "we can burn the Koran if they burn the American flag, etc" post. I am interested in hearing opinions and getting a true discussion of the matter at hand.

Firstly, there is a issue (largely seen on Yahoo Answers) of people equating burning the Quran to burning the American flag. To put it simply, this is in my mind, ridiculous. The American Flag is a symbol of ideology. And while ideology is often misguided, in this case it works. One of our greatest freedoms (regardless of religious faith) is "Freedom of Speech".

You may not like the fact that people have a right, as stated in the Constitution / Bill of Rights, to burn the American Flag, and in fact, the Quran as well (we will address that later). yes, it does hurt many to see the symbol of freedom burning in some sort of protest. Whether you find that protest misguided or not, a flag is but a symbol of our rights and freedoms. You can burn 100 flags, but the American spirit will live on.

Here is a quote from the "Daily Record" in Gainesville, Florida, "This is a quote from the "Daily Record" in Florida, "The leader of a small Florida church that espouses anti-Islam philosophy said Wednesday he was determined to go through with his plan to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11, despite pressure from the White House, religious leaders and others to call it off".

A lot of people say this is reprehensible. However everyone has to realize that just as a American Flag burner has a right to do so, so does this gentleman. You may not like it. You may hate it/him. But you can not deny him the right to do it. It is his right. What then, is the TRUE issue behind all the governments and the Vatican, etc denouncement of his RIGHT to do this?

General Petraeous denounces it due to the potential of harm towards American troops in Afghanistan / Middle East. I believe we will see a increase in violence towards Americans if this happens. My only issue with this is that violence is never-ending in any of these war/peace zones. This burning will not cause a fire, only add fuel to it.

Now, a lot of people online say burning the Quran is the same as a flag. This is simply not the case. The Flag is a symbol of ideology. The Quran is a religion. This is deeper then simply a symbol of government. Some people may argue the Quran is simple a book of hate towards non-Muslims. While I have not read the Quran, I find this hard to believe. And to put simply, the Bible (and mot likely all other religious texts) have semblance of violence throughout their texts.

There seems to be a underlying fear of violence to burning the Quran. and this is most likely true. As stated earlier, this will most likely lead to violence overseas. And as stated in many articles, the preacher in Florida (Terry Jones) has himself received numerous death threats. However, in both cases, it’s not the majority or entirety of a population causing violence. Extremists are everywhere for every cause. You can’t condemn a whole people or population because a select few take it upon themselves to represent everyone in matters of violence. To do so, would put you on a level equal to that of the very people you are condemning.

A lot of people are wondering, "then what is the solution to this problem"? I think the first step is to not view this as a "problem that needs solving". This is a opportunity to educate the world on different religions and test one’s faith on proclaimed rights. Read the Quran to REALLY understand what it’s about. Talk to people with the preacher’s view to find out WHY they feel the way they do. What’s most important is to do both with a FREE AND CLEAR MIND. To do otherwise would tarnish pretty much everything you say and/or hear. You can be angry at something once you understand it. But try not to hate, even if you think you have a right to. Hatred eats away at you and in the end, you end up suffering, not the ones you’re directing your feelings towards.

I think burning the Quran is an unchristian thing to do.

Finally, all of you, be of one mind, sympathetic, loving toward one another, compassionate, humble. Do not return evil for evil, or insult for insult; but, on the contrary, a blessing, because to this you were called, that you might inherit a blessing. (1 Peter 3:8-9)

I acknowledge that this "Christian" has the legal right to burn the Quran in protest of a few Muslim extremists. This right is protected by his Freedom of Speech.

But I think that doing so is a moral wrong. He will intentionally or unintentionally insult and send the wrong message to over 1.5 billionmainstream Muslims with whom he has no complaint. These Muslims are our neighbors whom Jesus Christ has commanded us to love.

We don’t burn the U.S. flag to protest the small groups of far right extremists or far left extremists because it would insult and send the wrong message to over 300 million mainstream Americans.

We don’t burn the Bible to protest a small group of Christian extremists because it would insult and send the wrong message to over 2 billion mainstream Christians all over the world.

We don’t burn the Torah to protest a small group of Jewish extremists because it would insult and send the wrong message to mainstream Jews all over the world.

We shouldn’t burn the Quran to protest a small group of Muslim extremists because it would insult and send the wrong message to over 1.5 billion mainstream Muslims all over the world.

Should you speak sharply to a friend, fear not, you can be reconciled. But a contemptuous insult, a confidence broken, or a treacherous attack will drive away any friend. (Sirach 22:22)

Jesus Christ taught us to build bridges between people, not burn them.

With love in Christ.

Why did Republicans support a White Racist like Jesse Helms?

March 15th, 2011 10 comments

"Here are quotes by Jesse Helms himself. As you read them, bear in mind all those lovely quotes above, the ones about how he’s a conservative champion, a fighter for conservative ideals, etc. They said it, not me. Like Matt Yglesias, I would have thought it was a completely unjust smear against conservatism to have said any such thing. [UPDATE: To be clear, what I would have thought was unfair was not to take him as a part of the conservative movement, but to think of him as an exemplary figure or a champion. END UPDATE.]

On respect for the President:

"Just days after Mr. Helms, a Republican from North Carolina, created a furor by saying that President Clinton was not up to the job of Commander in Chief, he told The News and Observer, a newspaper in Raleigh: "Mr. Clinton better watch out if he comes down here. He’d better have a bodyguard.""

On race:

"From the beginning, Helms was schooled in the political device of using race to propel white conservatives to the polls. As news director for WRAL radio, Helms supported Willis Smith in his 1950 Senate campaign against Frank Porter Graham, the former president of the University of North Carolina. The campaign theme was that Graham favored interracial marriages. "White people, wake up before it is too late," said one ad. "Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? Frank Graham favors mingling of the races."

The campaign’s further contribution to political notoriety was a handbill that showed Graham’s wife dancing with a black man. (…)

But before long, Helms found his real calling as a nightly television commentator for WRAL in North Carolina, a post he held from 1960 to 1972. He blasted the "pinkos" and "Yankees" in Washington, and criticized King’s inner circle of civil rights leaders for "proven records of communism, socialism and sex perversion." He railed against Social Security, calling it "nothing more than doles and handouts." (…)

In the 1972 race, pitted against a Democratic congressman from Durham, Helms used code words that enraged liberals. The congressman’s name was Nick Galifianakis. Helms’ slogan: "Elect Jesse Helms — He’s One of Us.""


"Helms warned that, "Crime rates and irresponsibility among Negroes are a fact of life which must be faced."

He suggested that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was a communist dupe and refused, even decades after King’s death, to honor the Nobel Peace Prize winner.

He dismissed the civil rights movement as a cabal of communists and "moral degenerates."

As the movement gathered strength — and as murderous violence against activists in particular and African-Americans in general increased — Helms menacingly suggested to non-violent civil rights activists that, "The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that’s thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men’s rights.""

A personal favorite, worth remembering when you read things about how courteous Helms was in person:

"When Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois became the first African-American woman to sit in the Senate, Helms followed Moseley-Braun into an elevator, announcing to Utah Senator Orrin Hatch: "Watch me make her cry. I’m going to make her cry. I’m going to sing ‘Dixie’ until she cries."

Then, emphasizing the lines about how "good" things were before the Civil War ended slavery, Helms sang "Dixie.""

And another:

"His disdain for people of color (exemplified by his "humorous" habit, in private, of referring to any black person as "Fred") continues to find ways of expressing itself. He is the Senate’s most reliable opponent of any measure aimed at securing the rights or improving the conditions of African-Americans. In 1994, when Nelson Mandela visited the Capitol, Helms ostentatiously turned his back on him."

Humorous? Referring to any black person as "Fred"??

And (Helms himself, h/t Majikthise):

No intelligent Negro citizen should be insulted by a reference to this very plain fact of life. It is time to face honestly and sincerely the purely scientific statistical evidence of natural racial distinction in group intellect. … There is no bigotry either implicit or intended in such a realistic confrontation with the facts of life. … Those who would undertake to solve the problem by merely spending more money, and by massive forced integration, may be doing the greatest injustice of all to the Negro.”


"Crime rates and irresponsibility among Negroes are a fact of life which must be faced."


“To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he doesn’t have a natural instinct for rhythm and for singing and dancing.”


""Martin Luther King repeatedly refers to his ‘non-violent movement.’ It is about as non-violent as the Marines landing on Iwo Jima.""

"I was a senior when Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in 1968. Roughly 2,000 of us joined a vigil on the quad for several days. (…) Jesse Helms came on the television and said that all of the students sitting on the quad at Duke should ask their parents if it would be all right for their son or daughter to "marry a Negro" (Duke students were practically all white in those days). Unless the student’s parents approved of that prospect, Helms advised, he or she should go back to class."


"As a television commentator before running for the Senate, Helms said, "Dr. (Martin Luther) King’s outfit … is heavily laden at the top with leaders of proven records of communism, socialism and sex perversion, as well as other curious behavior." He called the Civil Rights Act of 1964 "the single most dangerous piece of legislation ever introduced in the Congress.""
Republicans admit your party is the party of White Supremacy and Racism and Nazism and I will stop humiliating you. If you don’t it will get ugly

As with Trent Lott, again, I find no inherent conflict in the Republicans’ support of Jesse Helms. This is in accord with the Republican Southern Strategy and that party’s efforts to attract racists and bigots to the Republican Party. It was a successful effort.

The Republican plan was to win elections and gain power by appealing to those who were disaffected by the civil rights legislation. The plan worked.

For those against the Amnesty Bill….?

June 29th, 2010 20 comments

Like some shambling undead Thing from a horror movie, the amnesty bill we all thought buried with a stake in its heart has been resurrected. Once again it’s headed to the senate floor to wreak havoc. But this is the kind of summer sequel most people don’t want to see. Neither Democrats nor Republicans in Washington seem to understand — or care — how unhappy the American people are about this bill.
And we are unhappy about it… Many Americans are outraged by the idea of rewarding criminals by allowing them to keep what they took. While hundreds of thousands of people around the world patiently await permission to come to this country, or go home when their visas expire, illegals decided the rules didn’t apply to them. Allowing them to become permanent residents violates our sense of fair play almost as much as it violates our laws. We’re assured that they will be at the "back of the line" for citizenship… but that line is supposed to form on the other side of the border.
We’re unhappy about rewarding criminal behavior. We’re told that these illegals should be honored because they wanted to become Americans so badly that many of them risked death to come here. (We’ll just ignore the fact that money was probably the real motivation for most of them.) But becoming American must include showing some regard for American sovereignty, and American laws. Those who deliberately crossed our borders illegally or overstayed their visas did not show that respect. Many ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS falsify records and documents on a daily basis, supply false Social Security numbers to employers, and lie to obtain drivers’ licenses, credit cards and other documents. Moreover, those hundreds of thousands who marched protesting law enforcement waving mexican flags and holding signs saying "This is our continent not yours" didn’t appear to want to become Americans, did they? Why should we reward them for that?
We don’t like the idea of creating a huge permanent underclass of low-level workers, either. Once granted legal status, all those people doing "jobs Americans won’t do" won’t want to do them either — not at the low wages they’re currently paid. They’ll want better jobs, with better pay. Prices for agricultural products and construction will rise as employers are forced to pay minimum wage, but that’s not the worst effect of a mass legalisation. Competition for available jobs in other areas will rise sharply. Competition for many blue-collar jobs will force wages to dip towards minimum wage level, creating a sharper division between blue-collar and white-collar workers, or lower class and middle class. Unemployment and entitlements will rise, and taxes will follow. Class warfare and envy politics fueled by racial divisions — the staples of Democratic campaigns — will escalate, granting the Democrats a huge vote windfall for many years to come. The fact that so many Republicans (including the President himself) are willing to sign the death warrant of their own party is amazing.
Many people are unhappy about this bill because of the way members of Congress and the President tried to shove it through the Senate quickly, without time for the bill to be amended before debate. The Bill was introduced on Thursday 17 May, and a vote to open debate on the final version was scheduled for Monday 21 June. The bill was not even written in final form until that Sunday, and most Senators hadn’t even seen it by the time they were expected to vote, much less had time to draft amendments. Public outcry pushed back the vote to give Senators time to propose amendments and gauge public opinion. After the move for cloture — an attempt to bring the bill up for a vote — failed, the bill was removed from the floor. But President Bush, when attacking opponents of the bill didn’t work, pushed his supporters in the Senate to bring it back after adding some money for border security — the security that was mandated in a bill last year, and about which nothing much was done.
But it’s still the same terrible bill, which grants a de facto amnesty to millions of criminal trespassers (no matter what its proponents want to call it), allowing them to stay as permanent residents and bring tens of millions of new immigrants into the country. Thanks to Liberal "multiculturalism," many of those people will never integrate into American society. It’s like a home invasion on a massive scale, while the government’s response is to tell us we just have to live with our new housemates. And the border fence that was mandated in the Secure Fence Act of 2006 is still not built, which means that in another decade or so, we’ll have to go through all of this again. Before we decide what to do about the estimated 12-20 million illegal immigrants in this country, we have got to ensure that it’s the last time we have to deal with the problem.
Back in 1986, we were told that we would have real border security, in exchange for a one-time amnesty. Well, the politicians got their one-time amnesty. Now, we want our security.
Yeah, I realize its long, but its OUR country, and its worth it…
Hey Spazz or Spass or whatever your calling your next account that will pop up with the same question….you are so funny, wow….ya know what? Just call your senator and say no to the bill…ok?
Let me tell you this…The ILLEGAL mexicans are actually laughing at people like you. They will get as many Stupid American citizens to fight for their cause and when they inevitably take over the country, you will be singing a different tune. Let me ask YOU this….How does it make you feel when they go around waving their flag, burning our flag, and demanding that we speak their language let alone saying that this continent belongs to them….Let me ask you this? How fair is it that other LEGAL immigrants worked hard and patiently waited for their citizenship, only to have this crap thrown in their faces? These are people who fought/worked and sweat off their backs for this country, only to have these disease spreading roaches want to take credit? I think not… OH and let me TELL you this, I will GLADLY welcome a price raise in milk and Macdonalds burgers as long as they arent touching it with their dirty ecoli spreading hands….notice the increase in disease lately?
The above statement is directed to Greg P

Well stated. I completely agree with you.. Also, if this thing passes, imigrants are going to be flooding in and claiming amnesty. I’m kind of scared of all the chaos that will ensue.

Why can’t I find record of my GGGrandFather’s death?

May 26th, 2010 9 comments

Stephen P. Williamson was born in 1856 Arkansas. I found him in a census in 1860 with his family there. I found him in 1876 when he married in Texas. I found him in 1880 with his wife and some of his children in Texas Montague. I was told by my Father he died in Del Rio, Texas and then his wife, my GGGrandMother Betty (Welch)Williamson moved on to Bisbee, AZ. But I cannot find any record of his death. I believe he would have to have died after 1919 according my findings.

Since Val Verede County is on the Mexican border, do you suppose that he could have died over the border in Mexico?

Wow, this family really is a challenge.

The first thing I found was a death certificate for Fonc Williamson, son of Steve Williamson and Betty Welch. He was born feb 19, 1883 in Arkansas and died May 4, 1940 in Wellbon, Yuma County, Arizona. I thought that this was a unique name so i thought i would try to follow him through the census. Here is a link to his death certificate:

His name is mistranscribed in the World War I draft cards. He is indexed as "Ford" rather than Fonc. The cards were completed in 1917-1918 and he was in Cochise county, Arizona proving that he was in the state before 1920.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Ford Williamson
Name: Ford Williamson
City: Not Stated
County: Cochise
State: Arizona
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1882
Race: White
Roll: 1522348
DraftBoard: 0

I couldn’t find him in 1930, but I did find him living with his mother in 1920 in Cochise county, Arizona. Also in the house hold is his sister Maud. It clearly states that Mary E. (Betty a nickname for Elizabeth) is widowed.

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: McNeal, Cochise, Arizona; Roll: T625_46; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 9; Image: 800.
Indexed as Fanc S Williamson

Williamson, Fanc head male white 37 years old single born in Arkansas
Williamson, Mary E mother female white 60 years old widowed born in Texas
Williamson, Maud L sister female white 28 years old.

From this census, we would have to surmise that the family was there before 1920 and that Stephen P Williamson died prior to that.

I can’t find the family in 1910. I do find his brother Noat in Menard county, Texas with wife Belle and two kids Steven L. and Olie. Steven was born in New mexico in 1904 creating yet another place to look for answers.

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Justice Precinct 6, Menard, Texas; Roll: T624_1574; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 162; Image: 1331.

By the time of the World War I draft cards, Noat was in cochise county too with brother Lonc. His card was signed on September 12, 1918.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Noat Arch Williamson
Name: Noat Arch Williamson
City: Not Stated
County: Cochise
State: Arizona
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1879
Race: White
Roll: 1522348
DraftBoard: 0

Virgil was also there in Coshise county according to his draft card completed on the same day, September 12, 1918.
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Virgil Mair Williamson
Name: Virgil Mair Williamson
City: Not Stated
County: Cochise
State: Arizona
Birth Date: 17 Jul 1884
Race: White
Roll: 1522348
DraftBoard: 0

As you can see, you have several different directions you can go in. I’m pretty well convinced that Stephen died before 1920 because it seems like his family was in Arizona by 1918.

I think that finding him in 1910 may be key. He is definitely in Val Verde in 1900. Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Justice Precinct 3, Val Verde, Texas; Roll: T623 1675; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 75.
He is not indexed by first name because it is illegible, but Noat for example is indexed as Notie A and Betty is indexed as Elizabeth.

I could send you any of the images listed above if you would like to have them. Just e-mail me through my profile.

looking for public records monterrey mexico?

May 26th, 2010 2 comments

I am looking for information on public records in monterrey mexico, especially birth and death records. Does anyone have information?

Birth and death records in Mexico are not public, cannot be searched in the internet.
You would need to go to a specific "Registro Civil" in the state of Nuevo Leon and inquire about the information, although I am not sure you will be able to get it unless you are direct family.