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SOLVE COLD CASE MURDER OF MY GREAT GRAND PARENTS?

July 1st, 2011 2 comments

my mothers father was nine months old and his sister was a year older.They were left with the murdered bodies of their parents in the year 1910.the place was Salado Creek in New Mexico Territory.
My murdered grand parents were Eliseo Chavez he was born in Cebolito, New Mexico in the year 1883 and Amalia Rael.They were 27 and 19 years old.She was his second wife.Norberta Jiron of Alamo was his first wife they had a child named Tomasita.
We have found through research the marriage records of Eliseo and Amalia and through those documents discovered that he was born in Cebolito .Later we found the baptism records of Antonio and Martina Chavez the children of Eliseo And Amalia
We also found through Census records that Amalia had her mother Dorotea Rael living in the same town were the murders were committed We don’t understand why the family did not keep and raise my grand father Antonio or his sister Martina nor do we know what happened to Tomasita.
There are no death records for Eliseo and Amalia yet they are in the 1910 census of New Mexico .There are church records of baptismal for Antonio and Martina. Yet they were raised separately.
it’s all looking like the family of my grand mother new something or were the cause being that they were living there and abandoned the children because they were Indian.It’s hard to imagin a paternal grandmother not taking the children of her daughter who was murdered.Where did she go and why.My grand father spoke dine and his sister Martina spoke hopi.
In the end my grandfather antonio was killed in Santa Rosa New Mexico in front of the court house there is no marker for him there and his sister Martina died some where in Wyoming.of Alzheimer
this will be 100 years of the anniversary of their murders we will place a head stone not over their graves but .somewhere where we can visit .
If they were murdered because of land or mine deeds and the Rael family played a roll in it we want to know the truth about why they left the children with the dead bodies of their parents .
Even the church claims not to have any records of their death yet the church has all other records.Why is there a cover up and why wouldn’t the church have records.
Help solve this mystery .All information will assist the future generations of the surviving family members to get closure .It was bad enough that the grandparents of Eliseo were forced to walk to Fort Sumner on the long walk .Our people survived it’s time to claim what was stolen by the blood of my grand parents for the children s children.
In 2005 the Rael Family divided 4.5 million between 27 heirs of land that was sold to the state.did it take 95 years to sell land or was there a Claus holding it back.Did it belong to them or was it taken from my grand parents.
Look deep find the truth!

The problem is that anyone who knew anything about what actually happened is long dead, and the only thing you have to go on are the records from that time, and if they were tampered with back then, it’s going to be really hard to prove it, unless the party that did the tampering messed up and missed something. The problem is that if they did miss something, to find it now would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Can you help me find information on this elusive couple?

December 14th, 2009 5 comments

I am working on my family tree and I feel like I’ve hit a dead end with one pair of my great-great grandparents.

Their names were Nicholas Hoffman (I’m sure about that) and Christina Kovasavich (I’m not 100% sure about the first name).

I found this record on the California death index that I know to be correct:
Last: HOFFMAN
First: NICHOLAS
Gender: MALE
Birth Date: 06/03/1870
Death Date: 03/07/1961
Birth Place: WISCONSIN
Death Place (County): LOS ANGELES

They had a daughter named Angela Hoffman, who married Lloyd Franklin Saunders (whose ancestry is much easier to find).

I’ve looked everywhere–just can’t seem to find Nicholas Hoffman or a Christina Kovasavich. If you can help me out, I will greatly appreciate it!

WI OZAUKEE FREDONIA 1880 CENSUS
Anna Hoffmann 54 born Luxemburg, parents born Lux.
Nicholas Hoffmann 10 born Wis. parents born Lux.
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Nicholas Hoffman m. Anna Tackes in Luxembourg. Came to America around 1855-1860, settling in Fredonia, WI. Their Daughter Margaret or Margaretha b. 10/28/1853 Luxembourg, d. 8/5/1937, Fredonia WI. m. Abt 1868, Fredonia, WI, Nicholas Thill b. 12/24/1842 Luxembourg, d. 4/28/1921, Fredonia , WI. had the children: Peter Thill m. Appalonia, Susan, Catherine m. Mike Grolinger, John m. Catharine Smith, Anna m. John Krell, Mathias m. Theresa Krell, Nicholas m. Elizabeth Goschey, Mary m. John P. "Jemp" Goschey, Henry m. Magdolen Mayer, Joseph m. Mary Marie Dimmer.

They are mostly buried at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery, Holy Cross, Ozaukee Cty., WI. If you have any information please contact me!!! http://www.geocities.com/ttg13
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?nicholas::hoffman::1319.html
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SD KINGSBURY OLDHAM 1910 Census
HOFFMAN NICHOLAS 41 M W WI married 19 years, parents born Germany
Nellie 42 Iowa, 7 children, 5 living, parents born Ireland
John E. 13 SD
Raymond F. 8 SD.
Elsie V. 6
Angeline B. 6 SD.
Mary A. 5 mos. SD
Mary Moriarity mother-in-law 88 Ireland, wd. 6 children, 4 living
John 40 bro-in-law wd. Iowa
Mary niece 9 SD
Annie A. niece 7 SD
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WI OZAUKEE FREDONIA 1910 Census
Mary Goschey 64 Germany widow, 12 children, farmer
Mike 30 Wisconsin
Lizzie 26 Wisconsin
John 22
John P. 20
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WI OZAUKEE FREDONIA TWP 1900 CENSUS
Peter Goschy 56 born March 1844 Germany, married 34 years, immigrated 1844, in US 56 years pa. farmer, parents born Germany.
Mary 54, born Nov. 1845 Germany, married 34 years, 14 chilren, 12 living, immigrated 1860, in US. 40 years, parents born Germany.
Michael 21, born April 1879 Wisconsin
Lizzie 16, born Aug. 1883 Wis.
John 12, born Oct. 1887 Wis.
John P. 10, born Jan. 1890 Wis.