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WASHINGTON – Freshman Republican Randy Hultgren had no problem voting against extending the Patriot Act in February. But the death of Osama bin Laden, just weeks before part of the terrorist-fighting law expires, raises new questions for the Illinois congressman.

"It hasn’t changed my mind, not yet," Hultgren said this week. "I want to see that we’re doing it in a careful way, that we’re seeing results from it."

There’s no indication that the mission to take out bin Laden relied on the Patriot Act, which was designed after the Sept. 11 attacks to find terrorists inside the U.S. But the afterglow of the operation’s success shined new light on the nature of the terrorist threat nearly a decade after the attacks bin Laden inspired.

Interviews with House and Senate experts on the law, from both parties, indicate this week’s developments may have marginalized any effort to tighten the Patriot Act’s protections and perhaps scuttled Senate plans to hold a full week of debate on the bill.

From its inception, the law’s increased surveillance powers have been criticized by both liberals and conservatives as infringements on free speech rights and protections against unwarranted searches and seizures.

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Some Patriot Act opponents suggest that bin Laden’s demise should prompt Congress to reconsider the law, written when the terrorist leader was at the peak of his power. But the act’s supporters warn that al-Qaida splinter groups, scattered from Pakistan to the United States and beyond, may try to retaliate.

"Now more than ever, we need access to the crucial authorities in the Patriot Act," Attorney General Eric Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

If bin Laden’s death has any impact on the law’s fate, "I hope…it’ll be in the direction of extending the current law," said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell. "Most of us believe it’s been an effective tool in the war on terror."

The provisions that expire May 27 allow the government to use roving wiretaps on multiple electronic devices and across multiple carriers and get court-approved access to business records relevant to terrorist investigations. The third, a "lone wolf" provision that was part of a 2004 law, permits secret intelligence surveillance of non-U.S. individuals without having to show a connection between the target and a specific terrorist group.

The Senate Judiciary Committee in March approved a bill that would extend the provisions until 2013, tighten its civil liberties protections and increase oversight. But there’s evidence that bin Laden’s death may have marginalized any such effort to do more than extend the law, as is. A Senate official not authorized to speak for the record said it wasn’t clear that there would be a full week of floor debate on the Patriot Act as Majority Leader Harry Reid had indicated.

The law’s fate, for now, resides in the Republican-controlled House and the odd pairing of GOP libertarians and Democratic liberals who have long viewed the Patriot Act as an oppressive overreach.

Would the govt prefer it if we were all under lock and key?

I think the patriot Act was the Big Brother movement of them all pushed on us by our fear of the perpetual media booogey man I dont like it

Michael Savage Ph.D., on his radio show the other night, says Obama could not pass FBI background checks required of all prospective agents. Obama’s associations with folks like William Ayers and Tony Rezko and his past drug use are cited as possible reasons.

Savage also says, Obama could not qualify to become a Secret Service Agent (even those who are protecting him now) either. The only way Obama could gain access to certain clearance credentials would be through the only option available to him, hold office as president. Now, certain Secret Service agents attain clearances and have access to classified information that could only be afforded to Obama IF he is elected president.

A scary thought considering he wants to scale back, disband and remove many of the methods, techniques & technology that were put in place by President Bush (because Bush put them there) that are used to hunt these terrorist down. Doesn’t Obama understand that it isn’t by accident that we have not been attacked in over 7 years? Obama wants to make peace (“break bread”) with the terrorist and our enemies that wish to destroy everything that America stands for. He wants to talk to them and to “try to figure out why they hate us”. He still wants to pull troops out of Iraq even though the TROOP SERGE is working and peace is returning to Iraq.

Don’t forget the events of the Battle of Mogadishu, Osama Bin Laden was behind that too). Bill Clinton ordered troops out of the country in March 1994. This left Somalia in a state of anarchy, with warlords battling for control in the country for over 10 years with millions of deaths resulting.

"The objective of war is not to die for your country, its to make the other poor bastard die for his" – George S. Patton (WWII General).

"Do you know why we lost Veitnam? We pulled out. When your fighting you got to stay in there until they’re all dead"- George Carlin (comic)

Just look at Obama’s voting record…..

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/key-votes/

Obama has terrorist ties. Besides Rezko and Giannoulias, Obama could face questions about his relationship with William Ayers, a former member of the radical group the Weather Underground who is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois in Chicago. Ayers donated $200 in 2001 to Obama’s Illinois state Senate campaign and served with him from 1999 to 2002 on the board of the Woods Fund, an anti-poverty group. William Ayers was involved in a series of bombings for the group The Weather Underground in the early 1970s — including the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon. While Ayers was never prosecuted for those attacks, he told the New York Times in an interview published Sept. 11, 2001, that “I don’t regret setting bombs.”

First, Ayers contributed money to Obama. Want proof….

Amount (of $200.00) Contributed By William Ayers (1329 E. 50th Street, Chicago, IL 60615) Received By Barack Obama (on 4/2/2001, Individual Contribution to Friends of Barack Obama, inc.)

Second, this is more than a casual acquaintance. Obama and Ayers did serve together on the board of the Woods Fund. Did Obama and Ayers do more than simply sit side-by-side? Did they steer money to favored groups? Those are questions that journalists not bowing at the feet of the Obama “Messiah” need to ask. I am told, but have not yet be able to 100% confirm, that they steered money to an individual who is under Federal indictment. If that is true, it will get more interesting.
Even people like Omar Kadafi and (the Hitler of our time) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (the president of IRAN who wants to wipe Israel & the US off the face of the Earth) support Barack Hussein Obama and want him in office. Do you see anything wrong here???

OH GOD help us in these troubled times!!!

This adds to the discussion in a number of ways as the mainstream media has not reported this interesting FACT.

What do you think about all this???
Hey RAY….. Who started VIETNAM???

WAS IT LINDON B. JOHNSON??? AND WHAT PARTY WAS HE???

A DEMOCRAT – OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

*sob, sob* :-((

RAY – Go back to school and retake HISTORY 101.

Most important of all, WE DO NOT WANT A GOVERNMENT WITH PELOSI, REID, OBAMA, AND BIDEN CONTROLLING OUR COUNTRY.

No thanks to SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!

What do you think about this……? I was listening to a conservative talk show host (name of host is not important) on the radio the other night and on his radio show, he states that Obama could not pass all of the FBI background checks required of all prospective agents. And that Obama’s associations with folks like William Ayers and Tony Rezko with his past drug use are cited as possible reasons.

The host also states that Obama would not be able qualify to become a Secret Service Agent (even those who are protecting him now) either. The host states that the only way Obama could gain access to certain clearance credentials would be through the only option available to him, hold office as president. Now that fact is that certain Secret Service agents attain clearances and have access to classified information that could only be afforded to Obama if he is elected president, thus bypassing the background checks.

This adds to the discussion in a number of ways as most of the mainstream media has not reported these interesting FACTS and asked these hard question about Obama’s past.

Do you agree or disagree?

It is an interesting point that is made here and a scary thought considering Obama wants to scale back, disband and remove many of the methods, techniques & technology that were put in place by President Bush (because Bush put them there) that are used to hunt these terrorist down. Doesn’t Obama understand that it isn’t by accident that we have not been attacked in over 7 years? Obama wants to make peace (“break bread”) with the terrorist and our enemies that wish to destroy everything that America stands for. He wants to talk to them and to “try to figure out why they hate us”. He still wants to pull troops out of Iraq even though the TROOP SERGE is working and peace is returning to Iraq.

Don’t forget the events of the Battle of Mogadishu, (Osama Bin Laden was behind that too). Bill Clinton ordered troops out of the country in March 1994. This left Somalia in a state of anarchy, with warlords battling for control in the country for over 10 years with millions of deaths resulting. – FACT

Patton once said: "The objective of war is not to die for your country, it’s to make the other poor bastard die for his" – George S. Patton (WWII General).

"Do you know why we lost Vietnam? We pulled out. When your fighting you got to stay in there until they’re all dead"- George Carlin (comic)

Just look at Obama’s voting record and see for yourself what he voted for and against…..

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/key-votes/

Obama does have possible terrorist connections. Besides Rezko and Giannoulias, Obama could face questions about his relationship with William Ayers, a former member of the radical group the Weather Underground who is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois in Chicago. Ayers donated $200 in 2001 to Obama’s Illinois state Senate campaign and served with him from 1999 to 2002 on the board of the Woods Fund, an anti-poverty group. William Ayers was involved in a series of bombings for the group The Weather Underground in the early 1970s — including the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon. While Ayers was never prosecuted for those attacks, he told the New York Times in an interview published Sept. 11, 2001, that “I don’t regret setting bombs.”

First, Ayers contributed money to Obama. Want proof….

Amount (of $200.00) Contributed By William Ayers (1329 E. 50th Street, Chicago, IL 60615) Received By Barack Obama (on 4/2/2001, Individual Contribution to Friends of Barack Obama, inc.)

This is just one of many examples of Ayers contributing money to Obama.

Second, this is more than a casual acquaintance. Obama and Ayers did serve together on the board of the Woods Fund. Did Obama and Ayers do more than simply sit side-by-side? Did they steer money to favored groups? Those are questions that journalists not bowing at the feet of the Obama “Messiah” need to ask. I am told, but have not yet be able to 100% confirm, that they steered money to an individual who is under Federal indictment. If that is true, it will get more interesting latter on.

Even people like Omar Kadafi and (the Hitler of our time) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (the president of IRAN who wants to wipe Israel & the US off the face of the Earth) support Barack Hussein Obama and want him in office.

I see a major red flag here. Do you see anything wrong here???

These are my opinions, but what do you really think?

if you ask a tough question, your a racist!