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Why do people hate Mormons?I mean, really?

March 21st, 2011 12 comments

Okay, I am from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. (or "Mormon" to those of you who have small intellectual skills) I am coming here today of Yahoo Answers to propose a question to the public. This question of coarse "What do people have against Mormons?" and I don’t want facts that you can’t back up, by saying " oh your Jesus isn’t our Jesus" there is only ONE Jesus Christ.Savior of the world.
Before you start ranting about how crappy the LDS church is, let me clear up a few things for you.
#1 We are not a cult. If you are naming us a cult and you have religion then your the cat calling the kettle black. All religious practices can be viewed as "cults" here is the link to prove it.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult

#2 We are not Polygamist. In the LDS religion we are married to ONE person for all eternity. Polygamy was practiced back in the days of Brigham Young.(the 1800’s!) and not because he wanted more than one wife. OOOH NO! it wasn’t for that. Its because of a thing called Mormon Pioneers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_pioneers) and the Mormon Batallion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Battalion) which were instances where LDS were kicked out of there homes and they were burned down because of their beliefs. They had to travel from New York to Utah by FOOT with handcarts, wagons, and oxen or horse pulling them.(bringing what little belongings they could salvage. On this treck many of the Men died , i mean, lets face it? who probably did most of the heavy duty work and MOST of the walking.not only that but wives lost husbands and parents lost children (babys even) it was difficult for many of them and it was sad but they did all this in the name of faith. Brigham Young probably married multiple women (as probably did other men) because the women had NO ONE to take care of them once they were their. also, polygamy was outlawed in the U.S. in 1882. Brigham Young died in 1877. (also, polygamy was widely accepted in the world before then) even the BIBLE has it? remember the bible talking about harlots and mistresses? oh ya… the Mormon church TOTALLY started polygamy. and we ENCOURAGE IT RIGHT?*sarcasm*. haha! do some research people.

#3 No we do not worship Joseph Smith or some guy called Mormo. Joseph smith is known for restoring what was said inside the Golden Plates. A document passed down from Nephi down to his last Decendent Mormon. The Golden Plates are not found today, because they are too sacred and lets face it. Who would be puzzled reading a dead language? or the matter of fact. people might steal the plates made from PURE gold and sell it. and lose the records forever. Its like someone taking the original documents of the bible burning them or defecating them. Yes, you wouldn’t like that either would you?.Mormon(who wrote the last book) like i said was the last decedent of of Lehi (who wrote the first book) fallowed by Nephi and so on. Mormon had to watch the death of his people and was an outcast in his own land.(http://www.suite101.com/content/who-was-mormon-a115600) He buried the golden then appeared to Joseph so that he could restor them to us. That we could have the truth. (unlike the bible that has been changed many,many,many,many,MANY times and different versions have been made.) The closest to the true bible is the original King James version that was translated from Latin. and no. Joseph Smith didn’t make it up. Joseph Smith had up to a 3rd grade education and wasn’t very smart. Neither was Oliver Cowdry! he was just the scribe. Could you translate a dead foreign language at the third grade level if you grew up on a farm and only knew how to read the bible and do farm work? NOT EVEN!! so yes. that answers that for you. Also there are STILL have SURVIVING copies of the FIRST EDITION of the Book of Mormon though. So you know this thing hasn’t been manipulated my the church (or anyone else) in any way.

#4 Yes we have temples in which we are sealed to our spouses for time and all eternity.(pretty cool huh?) and yes we wear magic underwear (undergarments is what we call them) oh? you think thats funny? haha! then why are you wearing a "t" around your neck? haha! thats right. your cross stands for something and so do our garments. They are just as sacred and stand for things and protect us.sound familiar?(you only get them when you marry though)

#5 We are not prejudice or hate anyone. (this is for you out there who think LDS are against "homosexuality") We are not. We don’t approve of it in our temples, because temples are only for
men and woman marriage (you know, the two people you need to make children) and our church is mainly focused of having eternal families. soooo…my point made.I know people who are LDS who are gay and attend church. We don’t kick gay people out or hate them. We view the temple as a sacred..)
I have a strong
The LDS religion is focused on Jesus Christ our savior of the world. We are a family based religion and believe that families will be together forever. It is my testimony that the LDS church is the truest thing to THE truth I have come across. Anything I have questioned it has been answered and I am left unquestioning the church and having nothing but love and faith and complete joy from it. I wish they world could know this feeling, this great love I have and feel in my soul. 🙂 It is truly amazing in every sense of the word. I love my religion, and i wouldn’t deny it ever.. I know its words are the truth and I know the book of mormon speaks the truth and is the completion to the bible. Those two books are the complete gospel of our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. And there is nothing in the world that could ever make me leave this love I feel. The sense of belonging I feel, and the sense of family I feel from attending church every Sunday….. :’) I love it with all my heart and so

I just wanted to thank you for posting this. Even though a lot of non members aren’t going to read this, you put it out there for them to read.

But, my only suggestion is not to pick on other religions in it. I grew up wearing that "t" around my neck, and that was a way I showed my faith. But, now that I’m becoming a part of the LDS religion, I’m thankful that there’s people out there who aren’t afraid to ask questions like this.

There’s a quote I like, and it says "people like to throw rocks at things that shine". Which is definitely true. People want to try to burn down LDS churches, people try to protest and write on temple grounds about how "terrible" the church is, and all the LDS do is sit back and thank GOD that we don’t despise people as much as they do us. If people want to spend their lives picking on a religion that they’re apparently so against, then go for it. I have better things to do than deal with the rumors they’re spreading.

Trust me, I’ve heard just about every ex-Mormon thing out there. And I come to find out that many are false accusations, or they’re someone’s statements. People just try to tear down what I think they deep down know is right.

Also, even Jesus told us that people would hate his followers. But He’s been through it all. Every type of temptation, or pain, or betrayal imaginable, he’s been through. Some people in the Bible even mentioned to rejoice when people persecute you.

So keep your faith, and make sure to pray and read the scriptures. Your testimony will always power over what exs or anti’s say.

Should I have a problem with being counted as a member of an organization based on the teachings of a lier?

December 21st, 2009 4 comments

The reason I asked this question in the first place was because I watched the movie Emma Smith last week with Shay. The movie only lightly touched on the subject of polygamy which I thought was vary odd because it was the reason she left the church(1). So I did some research on wikipedia and read that she(2) and Joseph(3) never admitted publicly of being polygamists. Also that the RLDS witch was started by Emma and her son Joseph Smith III was based on the book of Mormon minus plural marriage. I’m not going to start copy and pasting a bunch of anti-Mormon junk that will only fall on deaf ears, but I am very troubled by how this commandment by god in the D&C specifically refers to Emma, and that she will be destroyed if she doesn’t comply(4). So how did it go down? Emma catches Joseph cheating(5) so he tells her that if she has a problem with it that god will kill her? The modern day Mormon church has a lot of good things going for it. I don’t think that being baptized or being on the records of any church has any power physically or spiritually over me. Should I have a problem with being counted as a member of an organization based on the teachings of someone who i believe to be a LIAR?

(1) Emma Smith was a tireless public campaigner against polygamy and stated: "We raise our voices and hands against John C. Bennett’s (acted as second in command to Joseph Smith, Jr. for a brief period in the early 1840s) ‘spiritual wife system’, as a scheme of profligates to seduce women; and they that harp upon it, wish to make it popular for the convenience of their own cupidity; wherefore, while the marriage bed, undefiled is honorable, let polygamy, bigamy, fornication, adultery, and prostitution, be frowned out of the hearts of honest men to drop in the gulf of fallen nature". The document The Voice of Innocence from Nauvoo, signed by Emma Smith as President of the Ladies’ Relief Society, was published within the article Virtue Will Triumph, Nauvoo Neighbor, March 20, 1844. The Voice of Innocence from Nauvoo is also referred to in LDS History of the Church 6:236, 241

(2) Throughout her lifetime Emma publicly denied knowledge of her husband’s involvement in the practice of polygamy and denied on her deathbed that the practice had ever occurred. Emma stated, "No such thing as polygamy, or spiritual wifery, was taught, publicly or privately, before my husband’s death, that I have now, or ever had any knowledge of…He had no other wife but me; nor did he to my knowledge ever have.Church History, Volume 3, pp. 355-356

(3) On May 26, just a few weeks before his death, Smith spoke before a large crowd of the Saints in front of the uncompleted temple and once again denied having any more than one wife. Smith stated "I had not been married scarcely five minutes, and made one proclamation of the Gospel, before it was reported that I had seven wives….I have rattled chains before in a dungeon for truth’s sake. I am innocent of all these charges, and you can bear witness of my innocence, for you know me yourselves….What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one. I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago; and I can prove them all perjurers."Address of the Prophet—His Testimony Against the Dissenters at Nauvoo, History of the Church, Period I, 6:408–412.

(4) The Doctrine and Covenants/Section 132 Revelation through Joseph Smith, Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded on July 12, 1843.
47 And again, verily I say, whomsoever you bless I will bless, and whomsoever you curse I will curse, saith the Lord; for I, the Lord, am thy God.
48 And again, verily I say unto you, my servant Joseph, that whatsoever you give on earth, and to whomsoever you give any one on earth, by my word and according to my law, it shall be visited with blessings and not cursings, and with my power, saith the Lord, and shall be without condemnation on earth and in heaven.
49 For I am the Lord thy God, and will be with thee even unto the end of the world, and through all eternity; for verily I seal upon you your exaltation, and prepare a throne for you in the kingdom of my Father, with Abraham your father.
50 Behold, I have seen your sacrifices, and will forgive all your sins; I have seen your sacrifices in obedience to that which I have told you. Go, therefore, and I make a way for your escape, as I accepted the offering of Abraham of his son Isaac.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to prove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, receive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and ha
have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been faithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
(5) Alger’s parents were neighbors of the Smiths, and Alger lived with Smith and his wife, Emma. Chauncey and Ann Eliza Webb, ex-Mormons, later recalled that rumors had been whispered while Alger lived with the Smiths about Smith and Alger. Alger stopped living with the Smiths as a result of a fallout with Emma and was dismissed as their housekeeper. The first contemporary reference to the alleged relationship was in a letter dated January 21, 1838. Oliver Cowdery wrote to his brother Warren stating that Smith had inappropriately spent time alone with Alger, referring to it as a "dirty, nasty, filthy affair." During this time Cowdery was estranged from Smith and they were disagreeing over leadership issues in the new movement. Fawn Brodie, in her famous work No Man Knows My History, also made the claim that Alger had been an affair of Smith’s.
Layla – As a member of the LDS faith i think i have a right to ask this question.
Rander1049 – You are probably right about that. haha
flora*and*fauna – Actually this is a real question that i think about and I’m really interested in others opinions.
Me – where in the bible is polygamy condoned by god?

I don’t know. But I bet members of the organization know how to spell "liar".