Thought someone might find this useful:
http://seekingmichigan.org/discover-collection?collection=p129401coll7
Michigan death certificates for the years 1897 to 1920 freely available online.
and them from there you can order the death certifiate (coroner’s report) from the Bureau of Vital Statistics in Michigan to prove what info you found..
My favorite Genealogy website is www.ancestorology.com It’s a Genealogy website focused on research in the midwest, particularly Missouri, Kansas, Iowa and Nebraska. They have information on the following:
Birth Announcements
Marriage Announcements
Obituaries
Yearbooks
Funeral Books
Military Records
Newspapers
Probates
Wills
Marriage Licenses
Death Certificates
Land Records
Tombstones
Cemetery books
Atlases
County Assessor Records
County Tax Records
County Court Docket Records
County Census Records
And if I need a specific record the do not have they will make a special trip just for the particular record I am looking for.
www.cyndislist.com
which lists THOUSANDS of websites for research.
If you limit yourself to one.. you are kind of cutting off your nose.
if you limit yourself to the internet for research.. you are just getting the tip of the iceberg.
and if so, how to find out in Hawaii?
http://www.hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/death.pdf
Link for request of death certificates in Hawaii, I haven’t seen one from there before, but if it’s like all the others I’ve worked with it will state cause of death somewhere on the form.
Suz
I did a search of Hawaii records, when the issue of his citizenship first came up. It was interesting. While copies of the documents could not be obtained, there was 3 live birth, and 3 death certificates for a person with Obama’s name. I have dealt with immigration issues. Identity theft was not an offense back then. Even today, it is common if a US citizen child dies, large families with non-citizen children, relatives, or friends in the community are given permission to use the birth certificate, to gain access to our great Nation.
Is it possible that everyone is focusing on the wrong issue – instead of birth certificate, perhaps access to death certificates would be revealing. This would make both the State of Hawaii accurate in their statement that an Obama was born there, and Obama’s grandmother correct in that knowing she was present at this man’s birth. – If it is not the same person.
I do not know Obama’s nationality. It is a citizens right to know. I was thinking that maybe, if irregularities with the certificate of live birth are accurate, the issue may not be the birth, but ability to trace a death certificate to that birth.
The interesting part to me was how unusual the name is; and the matching number of death and birth certificates.
|You have the mind of a detective and I would not want to be in the position of being your enemy.
Maybe you should use your investigative skills in law enforcement.
As for your observations my thoughts are:
1. hmm no one had come up with that angle before
2. this guy is a smart cookie
3. wow, if there is such a devious way of becoming a US citizen- that is one good way. I betcha it costs a LOT of money.
My mom died when I was 8. I wasn’t told the truth about how she died. I’m 22 now, my older sister just died as well. She was 18 when my mom died, I found some journaling in her things that indicated my mother didnt die the way I was told. How do I get the records of her death? The state is Florida. I have no other family except a 21 yr old sister who knows just as much as I do.
Florida has a website set up for ordering death certificates that may help you:
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/planning_eval/vital_statistics/deaths.htm
His name is Allan or Allen Shirley. I’m not for sure on the correct spelling. He died in 1985. I’m doing this for my mother so alot of help would be appreciated!
WITHOUT PAYING MONEY! because we all know it’s tight right now!
RootsWeb has a death record data base for California 1940 – 1995. They don’t have one for every state and they don’t have anything later or earlier for California.
http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi
SHIRLEY, ALLEN
B. 02/14/1934 in COLORADO
Mother’s maiden name: MANQUIS
D. LOS ANGELES(19) 04/08/1985
[I don’t know what "(19)" means]
The corresponding SSDI says his LR was El Monte.
That is a death RECORD, not a death Certificate. The Certificate will tell you his mother’s full name and his father’s full name, if the person who supplied the data knew. His SSN application is $27, but he filled it out. 30% of the death certificates I see say "Unknown" for parents. 99% of the SSN applications I see have both parents filled in.
You would have to drive to the county library branch in El Monte, or send them a request and a check, to get the obituary. He was almost certainly not in the LA Times, unless he was famous or infamous. He may have been in the El Monte (News / Herald / Sun / Star) – whatever the local paper is there.
with the help of ‘yahoo answers’ still have not found where relative is buried in Effort Pennsylvania… so I was wondering if this is because he may have been cremated and therefore a different search field is required….if I contact the County do you pay for death records
Whether death records are available at all in a particular county and whether you have to pay for them will vary from county to county.
Effort is in Monroe County. Pennsylvania death certificates (since 1906) are available for a fee from the state. They use a 3rd party vendor (Vitalchek) to process the requests and payments. – http://vitalchek.com/agency_locator.aspx?EventType=Death.
There’s no guarantee that the death certificate will list a place of burial.
You might also try www.findagrave.com.
I want to order the death ceriticates of 7 of my 8 great-grandparents. I already know where one was born, so I don’t need that one. I pretty much know where all of them died. That’s not what I’m looking for. What I’m looking for is if that record says where they were born too, and if possible, who there parents were. It costs $15. I’ll probably order one and see what it says, and than do the rest, but it takes like 6-8 weeks in between. Based on personal experience though, has it said place of birth on it?
I agree with Wendy.
Order the death certificates.
Knowing whether or not your ancestors died from a disease/health condition that may affect your health is worth the price of the certificate.
I have the death certificates of my paternal grandparents, maternal grandmother, my dad, 2 older brothers and a sister, as well as my 2nd step-mother-from Hell, all from Florida.
All show their birth dates and places, dates, times and places of death, their occupation, place of residence, the name and address of the funeral home, date of burial, names and places of the cemetery(s) and parents names.
If a death certificate gives you just one new piece of information, it’s worth more than $15.00.
Even the smallest clue can become the biggest clue.
who can i contact. where do i go or who do i call.
Hi, the first thing you need to know is exactly in which town or city of the state of Veracruz the death certificate was given. This is because Registro Civil, which is the office in charge of birth, marriage, divorce and death certificates depends directly from the Municipal (county) authorities. You can probably then google "Registro Civil ________(town’s name)" to find the address and telephone number and then call to find out what you need to do to get a copy, I think that someone has to go in person to the Registro Civil office to pay for it (less than 10 dollars) and then it takes about two days to get it.
I live in Xalapa, Veracruz, if you need any help you can e-mail me.
Dead men tell no tales, but Death Records can sure say a lot. They have come a long way since their humble beginning back at the turn of the 20th century. Today, Public Death Records form the set of Vital Public Records jointly with Birth, Divorce and Marriage Records. Public Records are much like reputation, you own it but you don’t really have a say in it.
The details surrounding the death such as time and place of death, burial and funeral information, personal particulars of the deceased and some degree of his spouse’s, children’s and parents’ are found in people’s Public Death Records. It’s also customary to put up an obituary alongside the death notices especially if the deceased was a distinguished figure in his lifetime and obituaries often show up as part of death records.
Although some of the information contained in Free Government Death Records may be private and confidential to some degree, Death Records are Public Records nevertheless. This means that generally anybody’s death records can be retrieved by any member of the public as long as the required procedures are followed.
Public Death Records are useful in locating out-of-touch friends or relatives, criminal investigation, researching a late person by the attached obituary and tracing family trees. Death Certificates are required for some official and legal undertakings and a good place to look is the deceased’s death records. Public Death Notices are also an invaluable resource for Genealogy and other historical studies.
Different states have different laws governing the access and use of Public Death Records. Furthermore, the death record databases of the various states are not linked. That means if it is not known which state precisely is the subject’s state of residence, a state by state search would have to be conducted in order for the search to be exhaustive. Having that said, records within each state however are uploaded onto a central state repository.
Besides the state office, Public Death Records can also be requested from other local government agencies tasked with the function. Death Records Search can be done through the mail, telephone, fax, in person or online over the internet. As with other public services, Online Death Records is the most popular mode of retrieval and has thus become increasingly available.
Although we can Find Death Records essentially free of charge from public offices, the setback is it usually requires queue and waiting period. The format of records among different agencies is also not standardized so they can be potluck in that sense. For more purposeful searches, people would be better-served with fee-based professional information providers which are abundantly found on all major search engines.
Ben Dave
http://www.articlesbase.com/genealogy-articles/search-online-public-death-records-726729.html
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